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Old 12-10-06, 09:52 PM   #1
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How far down do you have to strip the frame for Framesaver/Boeshield?

I've got a couple steel bikes that could really use an extra touch of protection, given the Seattle climate. I've been looking into Framesaver, and Boeshield, and am just curious how much I'd have to strip the bike down before applying it. As these are all fully built up, it would be a decent endeavor to protect the whole lot of them if I need to fully part them.

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Old 12-10-06, 10:15 PM   #2
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I just did two frames today.
Use Frame Saver (which comes with good instructions) or Amsoil's HDMP (Heavy Duty Metal Protector) which is available at some auto parts stores. It's the same stuff as Frame Saver, but not marketed for bicycles and doesn't come with instructions.
Boeshield T9 may work similarly, but my sense is that it won't be as durable of an internal coating. But both concoctions work as chain lube (Boeshield for bikes, HDMP for motorcycles b/c it's much thicker when it dries and gets gummy) and they're probably pretty similar.

I paid $15 or $16 for a can of Weigel's Frame Saver at my LBS, so that price ain't bad.

You should strip the frame down (remove seatpost, bottom bracket, and even the fork - you treat the fork separately). I plug the top and bottom holes of the headtub with paper towels, and make sure you've got bolts in or tape covering water bottle mounting holes. Spray about 4 seconds' worth into the top tube from the seat-tube hole (use the thin red nozzle that sticks into the head of the aerosol can) and then plug the top of the seat tube with paper towels as well. Rotate the bike around for awhile at various angles so the stuff can spread around and coat the entire inside of the tube.

As for the tiny holes in the stays and fork-ends, you should cover them either before or directly after you've sprayed the stuff into the tubes. The factor here is that the aerosol carrier needs a way to get out of the tubing, leaving the important gooey stuff inside. So when you're spraying into the chainstays from the bottom bracket end, there's a large enough hole (the one that you're spraying into) for the aerosol carrier to float back out. However, when you're spraying into the seatstays, and sometimes the fork depending on design, you've only got tiny holes at each end, and you need to leave the other end from the one that you're spraying into uncovered so aerosol carrier can float out that hole. Right after you've finished spraying, then cover the tiny holes at both ends with wadded paper towels held on tightly by masking tape.
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Old 12-11-06, 06:09 AM   #3
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If you don't want to remove the bb or fork, you can get a nearly complete application as follows:

1. remove the seatpost and spray down the seattube and top tube and seatstays.

2. remove the downtube water bottle cage bolt and spray into the downtube through the bolt hole.

3. spray through the hole at the dropout end of each chainstay.

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My view is that if you're going to go to the trouble of rustproofing your bikes, you may as well do it right. After all, any moisture that enters through the headset or seatpost will tend to collect in the bottom bracket shell thanks to gravity. If you don't have the tools for removing the bottom bracket (or the headset, if it's not threadless), then you can ask your LBS to remove/reinstall those components for you; shouldn't cost you more than a few bucks.

Just be sure when you're using these products that you're working outside. They're messy and poisonous (at least, Framesaver/HDMP are; don't know about Boeshield, but one may safely assume that at least half of my statement still applies). You can use WD-40 to remove any gunk that shouldn't be there, for example, any goop on the outside of the frame.
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