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Old 12-22-06, 07:50 PM
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Handlebars shake?

Okay I have been using this bike for a while. I changed out the bars with north road bars from drop bars. I put a rack on the back and I was carrying a 20 pound load. The other day I was riding for the first time since the transformation from a road bike to a touring bike. I was going at 14 mph and when I lifted my hands off the handlebars to get some water I notice the bars were shaking and they got worse the faster I went. I got to 24 mph without hands and tehy were still shaking bad, but not bad enough to wipe me out. What could it be? the rim is straight, the bars are even with weight, I tried a few things, any ideas?
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I had the same problem with my first Capo when commuting home from UCLA with a Pletscher rack loaded with textbooks. Front wheel oscillation has been discussed extensively in various bicycle forums, and it appears to be related to frame stiffness, geometry, load, bearings (headset or front wheel) and even REAR wheel balance and/or alignment. Transferring some of your load to a front handlebar bag or a backpack may give you some relief.
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Try moving one hand to the center of your handlebars, and hold it very very loosely, while grabbing the toptube with your otherhand.

If you transfer weight to the toptube, you'll often stop the shimmy right then. Also, if you loosen your grip on the 'bars, that will often help too.
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Pick up the book Bicycling Science by David Gordon Wilson. It explains why this happens. It's complex geometry and metallurgy etc.. as John E said.
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My tourer/commuter mtb conversion's front end shook as you described, regardless of the load I was carrying. I was running Continental Town & Countries and when I switched tires to Panaracer street slicks the shaking stopped.
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Originally Posted by DavidARayJaxNC
Okay I have been using this bike for a while. I changed out the bars with north road bars from drop bars. I put a rack on the back and I was carrying a 20 pound load. The other day I was riding for the first time since the transformation from a road bike to a touring bike. I was going at 14 mph and when I lifted my hands off the handlebars to get some water I notice the bars were shaking and they got worse the faster I went. I got to 24 mph without hands and tehy were still shaking bad, but not bad enough to wipe me out. What could it be? the rim is straight, the bars are even with weight, I tried a few things, any ideas?
I could be a case of the tail wagging the dog. You mention about the rack on the back. How far behind or in front of the rear axle would you estimate the vertical centreline of your pack? You mentioned this is an older bike... how "fine" are the seat and chainstays? Does the rack slope backwards from the seatstay mounts? Have you pushed the panniers as far back on the rack as they will go to avoid foot strike? I think if any of these scenarios exist, they will be the cause of front-end shimmy.

In addition, you might just check the preload on the headset bearings, as it may be looser than it should be. If all other things are equal, and the bike didn't shimmy before, a change in handlebars is unlikely to have changed the dynamics of the bike.
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