How long will Shimano 9-sp parts be around?
03-13-07, 10:06 AM
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How long will Shimano 9-sp parts be around?
Specifically, brifters and cassettes -- the better models like 105, ultegra, DA.
Should I stock up on cassettes now?
I'm wondering if some of you mechanics have past experiences that will shed light on this.
Thanks.
Should I stock up on cassettes now?
I'm wondering if some of you mechanics have past experiences that will shed light on this.
Thanks.
03-13-07, 10:15 AM
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Who knows?
Why not upgrade to 10-speed when your shifters wear out, they're the most expensive part and won't last forever? All you need for an upgrade are shifters, cassette, chain, and handlebar tape.
Al
Why not upgrade to 10-speed when your shifters wear out, they're the most expensive part and won't last forever? All you need for an upgrade are shifters, cassette, chain, and handlebar tape.
Al
03-13-07, 10:16 AM
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There's still cassettes available for 7 and 8 speed, you can still get freewheels, I wouldn't be putting out the money to stock up on 9 speed cassettes anytime soon.
Brifters are likely to get hard to find sooner, try searching up 7 brifters, but I'm too cheap to buy something that expensive and just have it sit around in case my current one dies.
Brifters are likely to get hard to find sooner, try searching up 7 brifters, but I'm too cheap to buy something that expensive and just have it sit around in case my current one dies.
03-13-07, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Al1943
Who knows?
Why not upgrade to 10-speed when your shifters wear out, they're the most expensive part and won't last forever? All you need for an upgrade are shifters, cassette, chain, and handlebar tape.
Al
Why not upgrade to 10-speed when your shifters wear out, they're the most expensive part and won't last forever? All you need for an upgrade are shifters, cassette, chain, and handlebar tape.
Al
Al -- you don't need a new RD for that?
03-13-07, 10:24 AM
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Another thing to consider is that SRAM 9-spd cassettes are cheaper and work just dandy.
I agree that the time to upgrade is when the brifters wear out. The supply will outlast your brifters. My 9-spd DA brifters are 7 years old, and work just great -- but when they go, I'm probably going with SRAM 10-spd...
My 8-spd Ultegra brifters are still doing great, even though I haven't ridden them in a while. They probably have eight years/80K miles on them, and shift fine.
I agree that the time to upgrade is when the brifters wear out. The supply will outlast your brifters. My 9-spd DA brifters are 7 years old, and work just great -- but when they go, I'm probably going with SRAM 10-spd...
My 8-spd Ultegra brifters are still doing great, even though I haven't ridden them in a while. They probably have eight years/80K miles on them, and shift fine.
03-13-07, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Coyote2
Specifically, brifters and cassettes -- the better models like 105, ultegra, DA.
I own two 9-speed Ultegra equipped bikes. Changing them to 10-speed does not particularly appeal to me. I recently acquired a set of new Ultegra brifters, in the box, just to keep as spares.
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I just bought a NOS 5 speed freewheel. I don't think the 9 speed stuff is going anywhere for a while. It is a good time to stock up though, since the price on 9 speed stuff is lower due to a lot of people upgrading to 10 speed now.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
I agree that the time to upgrade is when the brifters wear out. The supply will outlast your brifters. My 9-spd DA brifters are 7 years old, and work just great -- but when they go, I'm probably going with SRAM 10-spd...
My 8-spd Ultegra brifters are still doing great, even though I haven't ridden them in a while. They probably have eight years/80K miles on them, and shift fine.
03-13-07, 11:44 AM
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Sorry, what is a brifter?
03-13-07, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Al1943
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Why not upgrade to 10-speed
Al
Why not upgrade to 10-speed
Al
For the road, i suppose 10-speed is fine. But i ride offroad, cyclocross. 10-speed is a waste there.
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Originally Posted by i_r_beej
Well, because 10-speed represents progress for progress' sake?
For the road, i suppose 10-speed is fine. But i ride offroad, cyclocross. 10-speed is a waste there.
For the road, i suppose 10-speed is fine. But i ride offroad, cyclocross. 10-speed is a waste there.
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Originally Posted by xB_Nutt
I just bought a NOS 5 speed freewheel. I don't think the 9 speed stuff is going anywhere for a while.
The bottom line is that, working part time in a bike shop, I get the opportunity to talk to lots of bicycle people, dealer reps and the like. They might tease me about being a retro-grouch, but nobody argues that "Of course, 9-speed Ultegra brifters will be available next year."
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Originally Posted by i_r_beej
Well, because 10-speed represents progress for progress' sake?
For the road, i suppose 10-speed is fine. But i ride offroad, cyclocross. 10-speed is a waste there.
For the road, i suppose 10-speed is fine. But i ride offroad, cyclocross. 10-speed is a waste there.
I guess 10 speed clusters are an advantage for road racers. For everyone else 10 speed stuff is actually worse- the gears are so close that shifting is a lot more finicky, especially in wet conditions, and there is no weight advantage. Its a shame that 10 speed stuff was just automatically accepted as the new standard. I am loathe to place 10 speed equipment on my cyclocross and commuter bike but I may be forced to when they wear out.
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Originally Posted by Coyote2
Al -- you don't need a new RD for that?
Al
03-13-07, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Coyote2
How long will Shimano 9-sp parts be around?
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03-13-07, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by i_r_beej
Well, because 10-speed represents progress for progress' sake?
For the road, i suppose 10-speed is fine. But i ride offroad, cyclocross. 10-speed is a waste there.
For the road, i suppose 10-speed is fine. But i ride offroad, cyclocross. 10-speed is a waste there.
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03-13-07, 01:48 PM
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I was able to get a screamin' deal at the LBS for my DA9 drivetrain a couple years ago when DA went 10 speed. I think I'll just wait until DA goes 11 speed and repeat the process.
03-13-07, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso
I was able to get a screamin' deal at the LBS for my DA9 drivetrain a couple years ago when DA went 10 speed. I think I'll just wait until DA goes 11 speed and repeat the process.
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
+10 the "latest" and "greatest" is much more "latest" than "greatest."
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
And you'd better act fast because, by October, it will no longer be either "latest" or "greatest".
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Originally Posted by Coyote2
Specifically, brifters and cassettes -- the better models like 105, ultegra, DA.
Should I stock up on cassettes now?
I'm wondering if some of you mechanics have past experiences that will shed light on this.
Thanks.
Should I stock up on cassettes now?
I'm wondering if some of you mechanics have past experiences that will shed light on this.
Thanks.
ed rader
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How long with the 10 speeds be hot? Are 11 speeds on the horizon yet?
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
I hear what you're saying but I kind of think that brifters are different. Shimano's history is only producing components with lower numbers of speeds in the lower component groups. If you want 8-speed today, you pretty well have to put up with Sora.
They aren't DA, but they are certainly not Sora either.