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Old 03-29-07, 09:37 PM   #1
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Thanks for the McGuyver headset press links

So I went to Ace Hardware after work today and got the following:

12" threaded rod
2 nuts
4 big washers
2 bronze bushings. (Guy said "oh bronze is better, brass is soft").
The rod which I thought would cost about 6 bucks, was .7 cents!! When he looked on the computer he said "ohh, its discontinued and we are trying to get rid of it. Congrats, its costs 7 cents".

Entire tool: 11 bucks
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So I went to Ace Hardware after work today and got the following:

12" threaded rod
2 nuts
4 big washers
2 bronze bushings. (Guy said "oh bronze is better, brass is soft").
The rod which I thought would cost about 6 bucks, was .7 cents!! When he looked on the computer he said "ohh, its discontinued and we are trying to get rid of it. Congrats, its costs 7 cents".

Entire tool: 11 bucks
Good man! Don't need no stinkin' Park headset press!
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I gotta admit, some tools are just worth it. I can't work on my vintage Gios without my good old Campy T Wrench.
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I gotta admit, some tools are just worth it. I can't work on my vintage Gios without my good old Campy T Wrench.
Agreed. In fact when it comes to headset cup removal, I use the Park removal tool.
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How does one know if a headtube needs facing? (on a new frame)
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How does one know if a headtube needs facing? (on a new frame)
There's paint on it. Use lots of cutting oil.
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There's paint on it. Use lots of cutting oil.
So if it looks free of paint, it should be OK to skip the facing step?
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So if it looks free of paint, it should be OK to skip the facing step?
You will probably get different answers but when I worked at a shop, and I got a bike that needed an upgrade, if the bike was one of those "boxed" bikes (take box out of box, put in pedals and handlebars, done), then usually, in the manufacturing process, they don't face the BB and headsets.
But our cutom bikes are usually pretty good. Nice clean BB and headset.
You are taking it to a shop to do it right? You aren't going to use a file or anything like that?
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You will probably get different answers but when I worked at a shop, and I got a bike that needed an upgrade, if the bike was one of those "boxed" bikes (take box out of box, put in pedals and handlebars, done), then usually, in the manufacturing process, they don't face the BB and headsets.
But our cutom bikes are usually pretty good. Nice clean BB and headset.
You are taking it to a shop to do it right? You aren't going to use a file or anything like that?

I'll definitely take it to a shop if it looks like it needs to be faced. I really don't want to damage the frame, so i'm not going to mess around too much. However, if it doesn't need to be faced and i can install the headset myself using this method, that would be cool.

The frame is a new Rivendell Bleriot. It's their 'cheap' frame, made in Taiwan, so i don't know how carefully finished it will be in places like the inside of the head tube. The good thing is that it's lugged, so i'm guessing heat deformation of the headtube is unlikely (IIRC this is the common reason for having to face the head tube, other than paint getting in there..?)

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I gotta admit, some tools are just worth it. I can't work on my vintage Gios without my good old Campy T Wrench.

A prime example.
There are some tools such as the home made headset press the OP made, and some others such as the T wrench that must be bought.
Facing tool is another as well as chain tools that need to be bought, and a whole list on both sides from there.

I do like the headset press you made though Astrodaimler.
There was a thread I saw a while back on a home made headset cup remover that I liked too.
Good stuff.
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