rim/tire question
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rim/tire question
2 part question--#1--will a new road rim with a new 8 speed cassete fit in between 126mm rear d/o spacing?
#2--is changing from schraeder valve to a presta valve as simple as changing the tube?
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#2--is changing from schraeder valve to a presta valve as simple as changing the tube?
thanks
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#1 Sorry, no. Not without cold setting the frame.
#2 Again no. It would put strain on the area around the valve stem.
#2 Again no. It would put strain on the area around the valve stem.
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Originally Posted by signalnc
#2--is changing from schraeder valve to a presta valve as simple as changing the tube?
thanks
thanks
https://biketoolsetc.com/index.cgi?id...tem_id=WB-PSS1
Available at many bike shops. And, you do need the new tube, of course ;-)
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Originally Posted by signalnc
ok thanks-- is there any great benefit to having either presta or schreader?
Most road tubes have prestas and 26" mtb tubes have schreaders so I would venture to guess the prestas are lighter.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/presta-schrader.html
Check that site^
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I'm glad there's a thread going with my question already in it. Talking about "timing is everything"!
Anyway, my LBS sold me a new rim for my roady this morning (my current one is beyond repair, so he said), I didn't realize that the new rim is cut for schraeder, I asked him if its okay to use presta on it. He said that its okay.
So, should I return the rim and look for another LBS?
Anyway, my LBS sold me a new rim for my roady this morning (my current one is beyond repair, so he said), I didn't realize that the new rim is cut for schraeder, I asked him if its okay to use presta on it. He said that its okay.
So, should I return the rim and look for another LBS?
Last edited by DVC45; 04-27-07 at 07:44 PM.
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Originally Posted by signalnc
2 part question--#1--will a new road rim with a new 8 speed cassete fit in between 126mm rear d/o spacing?
#2--is changing from schraeder valve to a presta valve as simple as changing the tube?
thanks
#2--is changing from schraeder valve to a presta valve as simple as changing the tube?
thanks
#2 Don't know if they're still available, but there used to be grommets available that would decrease the size of the hole on a schraeder rim to presta size.
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#1 It's usually not too difficult to spread a 126mm spaced frame apart by hand and squeeze a 130mm hub in there each time you install the wheel. It makes installing the wheel a little more of a pain, but particularly with a steel frame it's usually very do-able. As for cold setting, you can only permanently cold set (bend) the rear triangle if your frame is steel. If you decide to cold set the frame, here are the instructions:
https://sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html
There's another cold setting method that will work (and I've used it), where you use a length of threaded rod, washers, and nuts in the dropouts to spread the frame, but Sheldon's method is better because you bend one side at a time, which assures that you'll have proper frame alignment when you're done. Instructions for the threaded rod method here, scroll down to the heading "spreading rear dropouts":
https://www.vintage-trek.com/refurbish.htm
In just going from 126mm to 130mm, from my experience there's no need to worry with dropout alignment. I've got thousands of miles on a frame that I cold set from 126 to 130 and I didn't re-align the dropouts. I've had absolutely no problems. Sheldon points out in his instructions that there's only about 1/3 of 1 degree difference in the dropout alignment as a result of spreading from 126 to 130, and he also points out that the likelihood of a broken axle would be increased if the dropouts were misaligned in the other direction.
#2 My favorite way to deal with that is to use the rubber grommet type adapters mentioned above, if you can find some, that stuff into the Schraeder hole and give a nice snug fit for a presta valve. That being said, I've run presta valves in Schraeder rims before with no problems, but for a high pressure road tire it would be best to use an adapter-
https://sheldonbrown.com/frame-spacing.html
There's another cold setting method that will work (and I've used it), where you use a length of threaded rod, washers, and nuts in the dropouts to spread the frame, but Sheldon's method is better because you bend one side at a time, which assures that you'll have proper frame alignment when you're done. Instructions for the threaded rod method here, scroll down to the heading "spreading rear dropouts":
https://www.vintage-trek.com/refurbish.htm
In just going from 126mm to 130mm, from my experience there's no need to worry with dropout alignment. I've got thousands of miles on a frame that I cold set from 126 to 130 and I didn't re-align the dropouts. I've had absolutely no problems. Sheldon points out in his instructions that there's only about 1/3 of 1 degree difference in the dropout alignment as a result of spreading from 126 to 130, and he also points out that the likelihood of a broken axle would be increased if the dropouts were misaligned in the other direction.
#2 My favorite way to deal with that is to use the rubber grommet type adapters mentioned above, if you can find some, that stuff into the Schraeder hole and give a nice snug fit for a presta valve. That being said, I've run presta valves in Schraeder rims before with no problems, but for a high pressure road tire it would be best to use an adapter-
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Originally Posted by DVC45
Anyway, my LBS sold me a new rim for my roady this morning (my current one is beyond repair, so he said), I didn't realize that the new rim is cut for schraeder, I asked him if its okay to use presta on it. He said that its okay.
So, should I return the rim and look for another LBS?
So, should I return the rim and look for another LBS?
Originally Posted by signalnc
ok-I have another tire size question--650 compared to 700--will I notice a difference?
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