Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Shameless Schrader/Presta Troll

Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Shameless Schrader/Presta Troll

Old 04-22-07, 08:43 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Retro Grouch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Posts: 30,225

Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.

Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1572 Post(s)
Liked 643 Times in 364 Posts
Shameless Schrader/Presta Troll

We haven't had one of these in awhile. Who's brave enough to start it off? Pick a side and I'll take the other.
Retro Grouch is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 08:55 AM
  #2  
Videre non videri
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Posts: 3,208

Bikes: 1 road bike (simple, light), 1 TT bike (could be more aero, could be lighter), 1 all-weather commuter and winter bike, 1 Monark 828E ergometer indoor bike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Ok, Schrader, for the elegance in its outward simplicity.
CdCf is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 08:59 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Retro Grouch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Posts: 30,225

Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.

Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1572 Post(s)
Liked 643 Times in 364 Posts
Originally Posted by CdCf
Ok, Schrader, for the elegance in its outward simplicity.
Too easy. So how does adding a spring make it simpler?
Retro Grouch is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 08:59 AM
  #4  
Lanky Lass
 
East Hill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Take a deep breath, and ask--What would Sheldon do?
Posts: 21,434

Bikes: Nishiki Nut! International, Pro, Olympic 12, Sport mixte, and others too numerous to mention.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Nah, the thinner Presta is much more elegant.

East Hill
__________________
___________________________________________________
TRY EMPATHY & HAVE LOVE IN YOUR HEART, PERHAPS I'LL SEE YOU ON THE ROAD...
East Hill is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 09:10 AM
  #5  
*
 
vpiuva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,458
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I haven't posted in one of these before. Now I have.
vpiuva is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 09:34 AM
  #6  
ride, paint, ride
 
simplify's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,204

Bikes: Cannondale R300 Caad2

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by vpiuva
I haven't posted in one of these before. Now I have.
+1.
simplify is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 09:41 AM
  #7  
Señor Miembro
 
JustBrowsing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: DC
Posts: 603
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Man, this is like asking which is better--an innie or outie? And why is there no poll to go along with this?

But since you asked, Presta...
JustBrowsing is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 09:56 AM
  #8  
Je pose, donc je suis.
 
gcl8a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Odense, Denmark
Posts: 1,463
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
We haven't had one of these in awhile. Who's brave enough to start it off? Pick a side and I'll take the other.
So this is like high school debate club, where you had to pick a side, even though there is no fathomable reason why anyone in their right mind would? OK, I'll take Schraeder then.


<looks down at index cards>

No gas station adapter needed.

Please rebut.

Last edited by gcl8a; 04-22-07 at 10:01 AM.
gcl8a is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 10:23 AM
  #9  
mechanically sound
 
frankenmike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Dover, NH
Posts: 1,606

Bikes: Indy Fab steel deluxe, Aventon cordoba, S-works stumpy fsr, Masi vincere, Dahon mu uno, Outcast 29 commuter

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 100 Post(s)
Liked 84 Times in 53 Posts
Presta because it's easier to adapt to either kind of pump. I've stopped on the trail to help people with flats only to discover that my(and most of the people on the trail) pump wouldn't work on schraeder.
frankenmike is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 10:47 AM
  #10  
Non Tribuo Anus Rodentum and off to the next adventure (RIP)
 
Stacey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 9,161
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Presta = aero.
__________________
Stacey is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 10:49 AM
  #11  
Lanky Lass
 
East Hill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Take a deep breath, and ask--What would Sheldon do?
Posts: 21,434

Bikes: Nishiki Nut! International, Pro, Olympic 12, Sport mixte, and others too numerous to mention.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Originally Posted by Stacey
Presta = aero.
'Cuz it's thinner....oh, I said that already, didn't I?

East Hill
__________________
___________________________________________________
TRY EMPATHY & HAVE LOVE IN YOUR HEART, PERHAPS I'LL SEE YOU ON THE ROAD...
East Hill is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 10:57 AM
  #12  
Bike Junkie
 
roccobike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: South of Raleigh, North of New Hill, East of Harris Lake, NC
Posts: 9,622

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Specialized Roubaix, Giant OCR-C, Specialized Stumpjumper FSR, Stumpjumper Comp, 88 & 92Nishiki Ariel, 87 Centurion Ironman, 92 Paramount, 84 Nishiki Medalist

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 68 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 37 Times in 27 Posts
I used to think this discussion was sort of pointless. For our mountain bikes, I still feel that way and go with the valve the bike/rim came with. But for my old road bikes with 27 inch tires, I've become frustrated with Schrader valves. I use an electric pump at home. If the valve is slightly tilted, I find the pump head can take a moment or so to release. During that brief period, I can lose 10 or 15 PSI on high pressure tires. Our newer road bikes have Presta valves that seem to disengage clean with little or no loss of pressure. I just purchased new, 100 PSI tires for 27" Araya alloy hook bead rims on a 87 Nishiki Custom Sport I recently purchased. I'll be converting the tubes to Presta when I mount the tires on that bike.
__________________
Roccobike BF Official Thread Terminator
roccobike is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 11:53 AM
  #13  
Sasquatch Crossing
 
mycoatl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Portlandia
Posts: 414
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Presta, 'cause that's what fits my rims.
mycoatl is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 11:55 AM
  #14  
ಠ_ಠ
 
DevilsGT2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SF
Posts: 624

Bikes: One of the first Aluminum Rockhoppers to come with front suspension.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Presta with a schrader adapter.
DevilsGT2 is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 12:21 PM
  #15  
My bikes became Vintage
 
OLDYELLR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,137
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
If you like dork disks, wheel reflectors, handlebar streamers and extension levers on your brakes, you'll prefer schraeder valves. My memory only goes back to the 1950s and all serious bikes have always had presta valves. I believe the popularity of schraeder valves in North America stems from the fact that, aside from children's toys, most people drove cars before they rode bikes.
OLDYELLR is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 01:26 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Wogster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Toronto (again) Ontario, Canada
Posts: 6,931

Bikes: Old Bike: 1975 Raleigh Delta, New Bike: 2004 Norco Bushpilot

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by OLDYELLR
If you like dork disks, wheel reflectors, handlebar streamers and extension levers on your brakes, you'll prefer schraeder valves. My memory only goes back to the 1950s and all serious bikes have always had presta valves. I believe the popularity of schraeder valves in North America stems from the fact that, aside from children's toys, most people drove cars before they rode bikes.
I don't know, my bikes, even the nice 80's bike had Schrader, although really, they both do the same job, and do it fairly well, although I prefer all bikes in the stable the same way, so if I bought a roadie with Prestas, I might put prestas on the MTB->touring conversion, but that thing is happy with Schraeders for now.....
Wogster is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 01:27 PM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Sci-Fi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,329
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 16 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by roccobike
I use an electric pump at home. If the valve is slightly tilted, I find the pump head can take a moment or so to release. During that brief period, I can lose 10 or 15 PSI on high pressure tires.
The main problem is that the air chuck needs to be changed to this type:


Although the clip looks like it won't hold the chuck and valve stem together without leaking air, it does work very well and I'm kind of glad I had to replace the OEM unit...the cost of going out and buying replacement didn't excite me though. Bought mine at Sears, but Wal*Mart has it for less cash.

After replacing the hose and the plastic air chuck head that broke on my electric air compressor, the new air chuck is easier to fit and release (rather quickly too) on Schrader valves without losing air pressure in the tubes/tires. Bought a pair of Presta Adapters (only a $1.50 for 2) so I can use the new air chuck to inflate my road tires without any fuss.

As far as Schrader vs Presta, I have no preferences...although I have seen and know a few tourers that drilled out their rims for Schrader because of the availabilty of Schrader tubes on the road if an LBS isn't nearby and they ran out of patches/spare tubes, and use rim grommets for their Presta tubes. Suppose one has to be prepared for anything on the road.
Sci-Fi is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 01:44 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
King of Kadence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: sf
Posts: 539
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Schrader, because you can get all those cool little valve caps for them.
King of Kadence is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 01:51 PM
  #19  
Señor Miembro
 
JustBrowsing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: DC
Posts: 603
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by King of Kadence
Schrader, because you can get all those cool little valve caps for them.
The man does have a point...Although those Presta rockets at the bottom are pretty cool...
JustBrowsing is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 02:53 PM
  #20  
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Berkeley/Santa Cruz
Posts: 47

Bikes: HPL steel track, Marin Muirwoods, 1985 Aluminum Trek 2000(?)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Presta because rims drilled for Presta can be drilled for Schraeder but not vice versa.
Also Presta tubes can be used in either kind of rim.
For similar reasons, I don't understand the point of fixed/free flip-flop hubs...
reve_etrange is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 03:01 PM
  #21  
so much for physics
 
humble_biker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: over there
Posts: 562

Bikes: Scott CR1 team, Fuji track pro, NYCbike, Cannondale, Free Spirit, GT Edge

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by JustBrowsing
Man, this is like asking which is better--an innie or outie? And why is there no poll to go along with this?

But since you asked, Presta...
An innie is the way to go no doubt about it.
humble_biker is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 07:00 PM
  #22  
Banned.
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Home alone
Posts: 6,017

Bikes: Trek 4300 X 2. Trek 1000, Trek 6000

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Presta: Because it is always good to keep brushed up on your swear words. Especially when sliming one of these tubes.
Portis is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 07:02 PM
  #23  
It's MY mountain
 
DiabloScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mt.Diablo
Posts: 10,001

Bikes: Klein, Merckx, Trek

Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4334 Post(s)
Liked 2,977 Times in 1,614 Posts
Schraeder valves are OK only if you're a slow rider. Above a certain speed (function of tire pressure and spring strength) the centrifugal force causes the valve to open up and let the air out of your tire. You can partially overcome this effect by screwing on your caps real tight and wrapping them with duct tape.

Last edited by DiabloScott; 04-23-07 at 10:39 AM.
DiabloScott is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 07:03 PM
  #24  
weirdo
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 98

Bikes: Viner Pro Carbon,Fat Chance Yo-Eddie, Specialized S-Works (epic), Voodoo Rada, Trek 830 setup SS for commuting.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
#1 I can spell "presta"
#2 It is easier to let the air out of a presta if I want to put on a new tire.
Flanderflop is offline  
Old 04-22-07, 07:07 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
gpelpel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Grass Valley, CA
Posts: 2,544

Bikes: Time RXRS, Specialized Stumpjumper FSR

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Presta for road bikes (thinner, geekier), shrader for all others (if you forget the pump you can stop at any gas station and get a refill).
gpelpel is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.