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Old 04-29-07, 09:35 AM   #1
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Best on-bike chain cleaning DEVICE ?

I asked this question in another thread, but most every responder thinks I'm talking about fluids (yet again). So here's a retry:
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I'm just not happy with the performance of my old chain cleaning device and I'm going to retire it.

What's a really good one for the money? The Finish Line chain cleaning device looks good, but so does Park Tools' and Pedro's.

Anyone had a chance to compare devices?

How does it hold up to aromatic cleaning fluids, like mineral spirits or gasoline (benzene to you Limeys)?
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I've used Park (earlier model) and Finish Line. I prefer the Finish Line machine.

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I've gotten very good results using the White Lightning Clean Streak setup.
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I still prefer the paint brush and rag to any device
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I asked this question in another thread, but most every responder thinks I'm talking about fluids (yet again). So here's a retry:
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I'm just not happy with the performance of my old chain cleaning device and I'm going to retire it.

What's a really good one for the money? The Finish Line chain cleaning device looks good, but so does Park Tools' and Pedro's.

Anyone had a chance to compare devices?

How does it hold up to aromatic cleaning fluids, like mineral spirits or gasoline (benzene to you Limeys)?
On bike devices aren't worth the cash. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...08#post4305408
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rag + toothbrush. (But don't use the toothbrush to brush your teeth nor the rag to wipe the sweat from your brow afterwards.)
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I've had the Park,more trouble than it's worth.This question is posted at least once a week by a member,the answers vary little. A rag,a toothbrush's just fine Here's when a machine pays to have,as far as not only money but the stink, mess and time : a bikeshop uses a machine ;they clean 20 chains a week ,maybe that many a day.You and I may do it once week.One needs to fool with the cleaner to fill it,run the chain trough the plastic toy-like contraption,get sprinkled with cleaner and stink everything up.Then, properly dispose of the vile, toxic,
used cleaner.Most persons that have written here and those I've known will agree.A bike shop is diifferent.
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a bikeshop uses a machine ;they clean 20 chains a week ,maybe that many a day.
No, bike shops just throw them in the solvent tank and use brushes. Clip on "chain cleaners" are for those people that 'need' a special tool in order to even bother with cleaning the chain because they're generally too lazy to do it the right way. Even the ****ty job they do is better than nothing, not by much mind you, but better than nothing.
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For me, nothing has worked as well as regular applications of Pro-Link, with a thorough wiping with an old t-shirt and an occasional brushing with an old toothbrush.
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Im a rag and tooth brush kind of guy!
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No, bike shops just throw them in the solvent tank and use brushes. Clip on "chain cleaners" are for those people that 'need' a special tool in order to even bother with cleaning the chain because they're generally too lazy to do it the right way. Even the ****ty job they do is better than nothing, not by much mind you, but better than nothing.
I guess I do it the lazy way because I use the Finishline chain cleaner and have got good results from it. I don't see the difference between using a solvent tank and brushes and using the chain cleaner that has a solvent tank (albeit smaller) and brushes. I used to take the chain off and swish it around in a bottle of mineral spirits but the chain cleaner is much easier. But I am just lazy.
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This question is posted at least once a week by a member
Yeah? Show me one, even beyond the short time you've been here.

Lots of questions about fluids and off-bike machines, but none about on-bike devices. Say, did you even read the question?
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On bike devices aren't worth the cash. http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...08#post4305408
Did I ask you for the "best way"? And that post says nothing about why "On bike devices aren't worth the cash". It just states your opinion (yet again) with no support.

Here's a hint. Belittling the poster doesn't work; it will get you banned. You want people to give your opinion some weight, have a supporting reason or two.


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Clip on "chain cleaners" are for those people that 'need' a special tool in order to even bother with cleaning the chain because they're generally too lazy to do it the right way.
If I'm going to break the chain, then I'm going to soak it, dry it, rinse it, dry again. And clean both cog sets and pulleys - the cassette preferably off the bike. When re-assembled the lube dries overnight. Easily an hour of work and the better part of a day ET.

I'll do that after a few hundred miles, but to keep road grime low I'll run the chain through the device a couple times in between.

Glad you have so much time on your hands. Some of us don't.
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I know a bike shop that uses them, but only because the shop is too small to have a solvent tank around.
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Here's a hint. Belittling the poster doesn't work; it will get you banned. You want people to give your opinion some weight, have a supporting reason or two.
Gee, I would think that years of experience using and selling the stupid things as a shop wrench would qualify me to know what I'm talking about but I guess a IT droid would be more qualified somehow.
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banishment <shaking> you should know that I'm not in the least bit worried about it. I answer this same question week in and week out if you want to waste your money and your time that's your business. You'll get the same results with a light spray of degreaser into a rag (to clean the sides) and a stiff dry paint brush (to knock out the crud between links) that you will with any machine.
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Finishline and use their degreaser. Works great.
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Gee, I would think that years of experience ... would qualify me to know what I'm talking about
Prove it.


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So you say. Yet you keep posting, and posting, and posting...


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You'll get the same results with a light spray of degreaser ... that you will with any machine.
If your procedure produces the same results as the machine (and I won't argue that it doesn't), then it follows that the machine produces the same results as your procedure. And presumably faster.

That rather contradicts your previous statements, doesn't it?
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For me, nothing has worked as well as regular applications of Pro-Link, with a thorough wiping with an old t-shirt and an occasional brushing with an old toothbrush.
+1!

I converted to Pro-Link a few years ago, and life is good. I also do the rag and sometimes a paintbrush or toothbrush depending on how nasty the chain has gotten. For 90% of my cleanings (which I do before most rides) simply use a rag, and Pro-Link.

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Prove it.



So you say. Yet you keep posting, and posting, and posting...



If your procedure produces the same results as the machine (and I won't argue that it doesn't), then it follows that the machine produces the same results as your procedure. And presumably faster.

That rather contradicts your previous statements, doesn't it?
THIS SUBJECT HAS BEEN MENTIONED if not as a dedicated subject as such BUT mentioned.Pay less attention to well intentioned posters by insuting them and calling them liers and author a better thread already if you hate the answers and members so much !! Stop makling posting responces a nagative experience fight-boy
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THIS SUBJECT HAS BEEN MENTIONED if not as a dedicated subject as such BUT mentioned.Pay less attention to well intentioned posters by insuting them and calling them liers and author a better thread already if you hate the answers and members so much !! Stop makling posting responces a nagative experience fight-boy
Drinking early today?

Your point is mine, but directed to the wrong side of the conversation. I haven't insulted anyone. At least not yet.

And in case you hadn't noticed, this is my thread.
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Prove it.
Prove what? That I'm more qualified to talk bike mechanics than an IT droid?
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So you say. Yet you keep posting, and posting, and posting...
It's obvious that you've made up your mind, but I hope to keep others from wasting their cash.
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If your procedure produces the same results as the machine (and I won't argue that it doesn't), then it follows that the machine produces the same results as your procedure. And presumably faster.

That rather contradicts your previous statements, doesn't it?
Not at all. My procedure illustrates that you can achieve the same questionable results without spending the money on a piece of crap machine.
Beer money vs. crappy machine?
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Brakekleen, Costco car towels, and Ream 'n' Clean pipe cleaners. It's all you need, unless you are a mud runner. bk
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So can we all agree that the best device for on-bike chain cleaning is a rag?
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Rag and pipe cleaners.
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So can we all agree that the best device for on-bike chain cleaning is a rag?
Sure why not
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