Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 23 of 23
  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    136
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    How do I get my bike to run silently?

    I heard that your bike should be running silently while riding if everything is working properly. Well today on my ride, I noticed especially on the three lowest gears while climbing, that it isn't silent. I can hear the rear cogs turning as the crank turns. There is no friction on the front derailer, and when I hopped off the bike and looked at the rear cogs, there didn't appear to be any friction with adjacent cogs (although it IS a 9 speed so maybe there is friction that I'm not aware of). The rear derailer limits are all set, and I was playing with the barrel adjuster for hours trying to make it run silently. I even asked some fellow riders what it might be, but they said it looked and sounded fine, but I could still hear the rotation of the cogs! What do you guys and gals think of this? I could also hear the cogs turning on some of the highest gears as well. Thanks for your help. The more info the better!

  2. #2
    cab horn
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Toronto
    My Bikes
    1987 Bianchi Campione
    Posts
    28,295
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Anytime you're chain isn't running straight, especially in cross chain combos = you will get noise.
    Mes compaingnons cui j'amoie et cui j'aim,... Me di, chanson.

  3. #3
    SOS
    SOS is offline
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    36
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    What do you mean by hearing "cogs turning"? A "turning noise" is not something one can relate to. What sound does the bike make?

  4. #4
    Rat Bastard mcoomer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Sammamish, WA
    My Bikes
    Cannondale Prophet, Specialized S-Works SL2, Specialized S-Works Stumpjumper
    Posts
    1,500
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Don't worry. I hear the voices too!

    Seriously though, my bike is in great shape and it isn't silent. Sometimes all it takes is a bit of dirt and mud, or a twig stuck in the cogs, a chain that needs a little more lube, etc. You'll know when your bike starts making the "I'm broken or about to break" noises. Just make sure that your drivetrain is clean, aligned, and lubed and you'll be fine.
    It's better to burn out than fade away...or slip out of your pedal and face plant on the side of the road!!!

    '06 Cannondale Prophet
    '08 Specialized S-Works Stumpjumper
    '09 Specialized S-Works Tarmac SL2

  5. #5
    Banned. BugsInMyTeeth's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    My Bikes
    1999 Kona Nunu, 2007 KHS Alite 3000
    Posts
    195
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    'Silent' is sort of relative, I suppose.

    Under perfect conditions, you shouldn't hear much, but you'll still hear something.. there are gears, chains, cables, etc, involved in this. Climbing usually relates to alot of torque as well.

    As mentioned... do a proper full drive train cleaning, and a good lube job before your next ride, and let us know if you're still hearing voices from the cogs.

  6. #6
    Your mom
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,546
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You could ditch your derailleurs and run fixed - that's about as close to silent as you'll get. Otherwise, +1 to the drivetrain clean. I had noise on my last ride, and realized that it was a dry chain. Everything's happy now.

  7. #7
    Senior Member miamijim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Tampa, Florida
    Posts
    11,854
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    you may be hearing the upper pulley make noise as it closer to the larger cogs. That in combination with an increased chain angle will cause an increase in noise in compariosn to a sligher gear.

    BTW...my bikes are almost silent. when I hear noise I know something is out whack.....
    WWW.CYCLESPEUGEOT.COM 2005 Pinarello Dogma; 1991 Paramount PDG 70 Mtb; 1976? AD Vent Noir; 1989 LeMond Maillot Juane F&F; 1993? Basso GAP F&F; 1989 Terry Symmetry; 2003 Trek 4700 Mtb; 1983 Vitus 979

  8. #8
    rebmeM roineS JanMM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Indiana
    My Bikes
    RANS V3, RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer
    Posts
    11,620
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Bikes don't run silently - especially derailleur-equipped bikes. Friction is normal, too.

  9. #9
    Bicycling Gnome
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    55.0N 1.59W
    Posts
    1,877
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Some of you guys must be using that White Lightening chain lube. My bikes run very quiet. I just lube the chain with 10/40 engine oil. I also put a little into the freewheel. The bikes are true stealth machines. I can sneak up on just about any pedestrian except the deaf, strangely. They keep a good look out unlike most others.

    A misaligned chain or a dry chain is the most likely cause of this guy's troubles. The only noise I hear is the wind and a very feint silky sound of the chain caressing the cogs.

  10. #10
    Senior Member Novakane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Canada's Capital
    My Bikes
    Sekine RM40 1980, Miyata 1000LT 1990, Raleigh Mixte Sprite 1980, Raleigh Grand Prix 1979
    Posts
    549
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    So, what kind of noise are we talking about here? A ticking sound as the chain runs through the several cogs, or a massive grinding sound that makes everyone stare at you and causes pedestrians to turn and make note of your arrival before you even reach for the bell?

  11. #11
    In beaurocratic limbo urbanknight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    My Bikes
    Specialized Allez, K2 Razorback
    Posts
    22,457
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    the definition of both SILENT and QUIET is the absence of any sound. Even the silky caressing is a sound, and I think that's where the OP is confused. There will be SOME sound, just very minimal. If you're riding 15 mph+ the wind in your ears should be louder than your drivetrain (in my opinion), but even my track bike with a perfect chain line made some amount of noise. I mean, you're making metal teeth pull on a metal chain. Whenever I ride really close to a retaining wall I am reminded of that. If it's louder than minimal, then you have something wrong.

    Oh, and as EvilV said, stay away from White Lightning and Triflow. Dirt magnets. I have been running Prolink for 6 months now and wiping the chain doesn't turn my rag black anymore, and the cogs stay clean.

  12. #12
    My bike's better than me! neil0502's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Northern Colorado
    My Bikes
    (2) Moots Vamoots, (1) Cannondale T2000 tourer, (1) Diamondback Response Comp mtb
    Posts
    2,041
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I tend to agree with Operator on this one, but believe there there are better and worse setups that cause less and more noise.

    My main ride is a 3x10 Campy record. In one specific combination of ring/cog (can't remember which, off hand) I can just hear the friction of the drivetrain. It's not a cross-chain combo, either (I don't do), but ... it's audible even under my gagging, coughing, wheezing, and begging noises.

    Other than that: well tuned, well lubed, clean, and properly set up ... I wouldn't expect too much noise ... and what WOULD be there ... well ... that's anything BUT "noise"

  13. #13
    My bike's better than me! neil0502's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Northern Colorado
    My Bikes
    (2) Moots Vamoots, (1) Cannondale T2000 tourer, (1) Diamondback Response Comp mtb
    Posts
    2,041
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by urbanknight
    I have been running Prolink for 6 months now and wiping the chain doesn't turn my rag black anymore,
    Just to be fair ...

    Is the Prolink working that well for you ... or have you switched to using black rags?


  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    1,441
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My bikes are generally very quiet; I rarely run any gear combo that puts a lot of sideways stress on the chain, and I'm rather meticulous about keeping everything straight.

    If you're getting some rubbing when you're not obviously cross-chaining, check to see your derailleur alignment is good, and that the hanger isn't bent or out of alignment. You might check the idlers in the DR cage as well, often neglected.

    I was in a charity run once and one guy in the group had one of those "Softride" jobs with the odd seat-mount arrangement. Thing sounded like a threshing machine!

  15. #15
    In beaurocratic limbo urbanknight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    My Bikes
    Specialized Allez, K2 Razorback
    Posts
    22,457
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by neil0502
    Just to be fair ...

    Is the Prolink working that well for you ... or have you switched to using black rags?

    lol It's working so well, I might just lick the chain clean next time!

  16. #16
    Ti #18 Senior.
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Albuquerque, NM
    My Bikes
    Serotta Concours
    Posts
    337
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Keep the drive train/chain clean and lubed. Keep things aligned and adjusted properly. Don't cross chain. Replace parts when they are worn - I have found that new parts are quieter - but, a new chain on an old/worn chainring or old/worn cassette will be noisy. I'm like you, I like a quiet bicycle. Good luck.

    Jim

  17. #17
    Senior Member chinotex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Houston, TX
    My Bikes
    2007 Trek 1500
    Posts
    663
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Here's my problem: My bike sounds like there is sand or dirt in the bottom bracket when I turn the crank. Is this something I can fix or will I need to get it taken apart and cleaned at the LBS? (I've been riding in the rain a lot recently... not my fault Houston's weather has been more like monsoon season in bangladesh these days... but I think the rain probably has something to do with the sound? maybe?)

  18. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    98
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The only way I have heard to remove the ticking of the rear cog is to purchase a police grade rear cog. They are designed to run silent.

  19. #19
    Grumbly Goat Bushman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    My Bikes
    bicycles with round wheels
    Posts
    896
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Run slicks, oil your chain with thicker oil, keep the hubs well greased, remove all the extra crap on your bike, use a tiny amount blue loctite to secure each and every bolt from backing out and rattling, put tiny O rings on your exposed cables so they dont slap on the frame.
    You ride a bike, we GET IT, no need to rant about it or look down on others....its JUST A BIKE...get over yourselves.

  20. #20
    Pwnerer Wordbiker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Pagosa Springs, CO, USA
    My Bikes
    Road, MTB, Cruiser, Chopper, BMX
    Posts
    2,879
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You could try turning up the volume on your iPod...
    Quote Originally Posted by ahsposo View Post
    Ski, bike and wish I was gay.

  21. #21
    cab horn
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Toronto
    My Bikes
    1987 Bianchi Campione
    Posts
    28,295
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Wordbiker View Post
    You could try turning up the volume on your iPod...
    I heard hearing loss is the new black.
    Mes compaingnons cui j'amoie et cui j'aim,... Me di, chanson.

  22. #22
    Pwnerer Wordbiker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Pagosa Springs, CO, USA
    My Bikes
    Road, MTB, Cruiser, Chopper, BMX
    Posts
    2,879
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by operator View Post
    I heard hearing loss is the new black.
    Sweet!

    I love it when I'm coincidentally in fashion.
    Quote Originally Posted by ahsposo View Post
    Ski, bike and wish I was gay.

  23. #23
    Old. Bald. Slow. openclassmx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Dallas, GA
    My Bikes
    '05 Trek 2100
    Posts
    75
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    If I knew the secret I'd apply it to my coworkers bike. He had a set of wheels built with Chris King hubs, and they sound like a Weed Eater when he coasts! Yeah, I know they are designed that way, but I could not adjust to that whine. Our normal ride has a 700' tunnel right before the turnaround point, and one day he was off the pace and I dropped him (at his suggestion). I sat down on a rock past the tunnel and waited. I heard his rear hub about 30 seconds before he appeared in the FAR end of the tunnel.
    "This flag is blue with a yellow stripe. If you see this flag, it means there's a race goin' on. And you ain't in it."
    -Marty Martin, Georgia MX promoter. R.I.P.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •