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07-24-07, 08:16 PM
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I've never used a disk brake so I can't compare them to canti's, but I can tell you that you will be able to lock up both your front and rear wheels with canti or any side-pull brake. Now I am assuming you don't have steel rims - they won't brake when wet. If steel - go disk. If you need to stop a tandem - go disk.
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so nobody nows anything about disk brakes?
okay
is there some online retail outlet that offers a catalog?
or does anyone know anything about that either?
okay
is there some online retail outlet that offers a catalog?
or does anyone know anything about that either?
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I normally stay quiet, but i'll throw in my two cents.
Disk Brakes : From what i understand, you need a frame with disk brake mounts on them. They're usually on the non-drive side on the rear triangle. Front disk brakes need the mounts on the fork. I don't know how they compare to regular brakes, as i've never used them.
Wheel Wobble : Is the rim wobbling or the tire? When you spin the wheel, watch the gap between the rim and the brakes. If that part wobbles, the wheel needs to be trued. If it's straight, it's probably just the tire. With practice, you can true wheels pretty quickly and save some money, otherwise a bike shop will probably charge $10-$20 a wheel.
Powdercoating : What's your reason for this? If the bike is relatively new, the paint and finish probably aren't toast. Do you just want a different color or look? Compare how much you like the bike, to how much it will cost powdercoat, and how long you plan on keeping the bike.
Upgrading parts : It sounds like you want a better group, plus disk brakes (assuming the bike came with canti's). My suggestion, is to ride your current bike as it is, and repair/maintain the components on it. It will be a great learning experience, and you'll figure out where/how/what you ride. Keep an eye out for a better frame. If you plan on going off-road, you'll probably want a lighter-weight bike, or something that can really, REALLY take a beating. Look for features that you want, like disk brake mounts, color, etc. Nashbar has a $45 frame, if you want to go cheap, otherwise, look for discount frames, second hand, or brand new frames. Save a little longer and instead of upgrading the current bike, buy for the new one (some parts/sizing might not transfer between them). As you learn, you can build up a pretty nice bike that everyone on here won't give you grief for.
Check out the mentioned links, Sheldon Brown's website and Park Tools. Head to the book store and get a repair manual (Bicycling magazine's book, Zinn's book on mountain bikes, etc.). Read through those, you'll learn a lot about bikes.
I'm doing the same thing right now, sort of. I've been building and riding road bikes for years, and now i want to get into mountain biking. I picked up an older Trek frame, and am looking at finding parts to rebuild it. I've working with Target/Wal-Mart/etc. bikes, and the parts either don't meet my expectations, or don't fit the frame. I think the limiting factor of your bike will be the frame.
But, those are just my rambling two cents. Enjoy the bike, and go ride. You'll get some grief from everyone else, but not from me. I'm glad you still ride and are thinking ahead and asking questions.
Disk Brakes : From what i understand, you need a frame with disk brake mounts on them. They're usually on the non-drive side on the rear triangle. Front disk brakes need the mounts on the fork. I don't know how they compare to regular brakes, as i've never used them.
Wheel Wobble : Is the rim wobbling or the tire? When you spin the wheel, watch the gap between the rim and the brakes. If that part wobbles, the wheel needs to be trued. If it's straight, it's probably just the tire. With practice, you can true wheels pretty quickly and save some money, otherwise a bike shop will probably charge $10-$20 a wheel.
Powdercoating : What's your reason for this? If the bike is relatively new, the paint and finish probably aren't toast. Do you just want a different color or look? Compare how much you like the bike, to how much it will cost powdercoat, and how long you plan on keeping the bike.
Upgrading parts : It sounds like you want a better group, plus disk brakes (assuming the bike came with canti's). My suggestion, is to ride your current bike as it is, and repair/maintain the components on it. It will be a great learning experience, and you'll figure out where/how/what you ride. Keep an eye out for a better frame. If you plan on going off-road, you'll probably want a lighter-weight bike, or something that can really, REALLY take a beating. Look for features that you want, like disk brake mounts, color, etc. Nashbar has a $45 frame, if you want to go cheap, otherwise, look for discount frames, second hand, or brand new frames. Save a little longer and instead of upgrading the current bike, buy for the new one (some parts/sizing might not transfer between them). As you learn, you can build up a pretty nice bike that everyone on here won't give you grief for.
Check out the mentioned links, Sheldon Brown's website and Park Tools. Head to the book store and get a repair manual (Bicycling magazine's book, Zinn's book on mountain bikes, etc.). Read through those, you'll learn a lot about bikes.
I'm doing the same thing right now, sort of. I've been building and riding road bikes for years, and now i want to get into mountain biking. I picked up an older Trek frame, and am looking at finding parts to rebuild it. I've working with Target/Wal-Mart/etc. bikes, and the parts either don't meet my expectations, or don't fit the frame. I think the limiting factor of your bike will be the frame.
But, those are just my rambling two cents. Enjoy the bike, and go ride. You'll get some grief from everyone else, but not from me. I'm glad you still ride and are thinking ahead and asking questions.
07-25-07, 05:00 PM
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I normally stay quiet, but i'll throw in my two cents.
Disk Brakes : From what i understand, you need a frame with disk brake mounts on them. They're usually on the non-drive side on the rear triangle. Front disk brakes need the mounts on the fork. I don't know how they compare to regular brakes, as i've never used them.
Wheel Wobble : Is the rim wobbling or the tire? When you spin the wheel, watch the gap between the rim and the brakes. If that part wobbles, the wheel needs to be trued. If it's straight, it's probably just the tire. With practice, you can true wheels pretty quickly and save some money, otherwise a bike shop will probably charge $10-$20 a wheel.
Powdercoating : What's your reason for this? If the bike is relatively new, the paint and finish probably aren't toast. Do you just want a different color or look? Compare how much you like the bike, to how much it will cost powdercoat, and how long you plan on keeping the bike.
Upgrading parts : It sounds like you want a better group, plus disk brakes (assuming the bike came with canti's). My suggestion, is to ride your current bike as it is, and repair/maintain the components on it. It will be a great learning experience, and you'll figure out where/how/what you ride. Keep an eye out for a better frame. If you plan on going off-road, you'll probably want a lighter-weight bike, or something that can really, REALLY take a beating. Look for features that you want, like disk brake mounts, color, etc. Nashbar has a $45 frame, if you want to go cheap, otherwise, look for discount frames, second hand, or brand new frames. Save a little longer and instead of upgrading the current bike, buy for the new one (some parts/sizing might not transfer between them). As you learn, you can build up a pretty nice bike that everyone on here won't give you grief for.
Check out the mentioned links, Sheldon Brown's website and Park Tools. Head to the book store and get a repair manual (Bicycling magazine's book, Zinn's book on mountain bikes, etc.). Read through those, you'll learn a lot about bikes.
I'm doing the same thing right now, sort of. I've been building and riding road bikes for years, and now i want to get into mountain biking. I picked up an older Trek frame, and am looking at finding parts to rebuild it. I've working with Target/Wal-Mart/etc. bikes, and the parts either don't meet my expectations, or don't fit the frame. I think the limiting factor of your bike will be the frame.
But, those are just my rambling two cents. Enjoy the bike, and go ride. You'll get some grief from everyone else, but not from me. I'm glad you still ride and are thinking ahead and asking questions.
Disk Brakes : From what i understand, you need a frame with disk brake mounts on them. They're usually on the non-drive side on the rear triangle. Front disk brakes need the mounts on the fork. I don't know how they compare to regular brakes, as i've never used them.
Wheel Wobble : Is the rim wobbling or the tire? When you spin the wheel, watch the gap between the rim and the brakes. If that part wobbles, the wheel needs to be trued. If it's straight, it's probably just the tire. With practice, you can true wheels pretty quickly and save some money, otherwise a bike shop will probably charge $10-$20 a wheel.
Powdercoating : What's your reason for this? If the bike is relatively new, the paint and finish probably aren't toast. Do you just want a different color or look? Compare how much you like the bike, to how much it will cost powdercoat, and how long you plan on keeping the bike.
Upgrading parts : It sounds like you want a better group, plus disk brakes (assuming the bike came with canti's). My suggestion, is to ride your current bike as it is, and repair/maintain the components on it. It will be a great learning experience, and you'll figure out where/how/what you ride. Keep an eye out for a better frame. If you plan on going off-road, you'll probably want a lighter-weight bike, or something that can really, REALLY take a beating. Look for features that you want, like disk brake mounts, color, etc. Nashbar has a $45 frame, if you want to go cheap, otherwise, look for discount frames, second hand, or brand new frames. Save a little longer and instead of upgrading the current bike, buy for the new one (some parts/sizing might not transfer between them). As you learn, you can build up a pretty nice bike that everyone on here won't give you grief for.
Check out the mentioned links, Sheldon Brown's website and Park Tools. Head to the book store and get a repair manual (Bicycling magazine's book, Zinn's book on mountain bikes, etc.). Read through those, you'll learn a lot about bikes.
I'm doing the same thing right now, sort of. I've been building and riding road bikes for years, and now i want to get into mountain biking. I picked up an older Trek frame, and am looking at finding parts to rebuild it. I've working with Target/Wal-Mart/etc. bikes, and the parts either don't meet my expectations, or don't fit the frame. I think the limiting factor of your bike will be the frame.
But, those are just my rambling two cents. Enjoy the bike, and go ride. You'll get some grief from everyone else, but not from me. I'm glad you still ride and are thinking ahead and asking questions.
and thank you so much for all of the info
i dont understand why people want to give a newbie so much grief just because he isnt rockafeller and can go out and drop upteen hundred dollars on a bike that still fails to meet my expectations.
call me crazy call me stupid
i just like to make everything different if possible
that way i know it is mine and there isnt another one like it in the world
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Sorta like doing a rim job on a Yugo? 
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We're not dumping on you for not being a Rockefeller, rather you came to a place full of experience asking for advice. The advice we gave you is that you cannot paint the Mona Lisa with fingerpaints. You told us you were going to put XTR cranks on your Target bike. Those are $500 cranks. For $500 you could buy a pretty nice damn bike, made up of real parts on a frame that fits you and is made well enough to trust. If you want to build a bike, don't upgrade hundreds of dollars worth of parts onto a POS frame. Buy a decent frame (like, say the Nashbar that's been suggested about a dozen times) and build it up using inexpensive, but real parts. You could even build it up with some nice used parts.
Tell you what, if you buy a Nashbar frame to build up, I would send you some nice older parts for the cost of shipping them to you. I'd bet a few others on here would do the same. How's that for newbie grief?
Tell you what, if you buy a Nashbar frame to build up, I would send you some nice older parts for the cost of shipping them to you. I'd bet a few others on here would do the same. How's that for newbie grief?
