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San Rensho 07-24-07 01:10 PM

Sealed bearing headset binding
 
I switched from a loose ball to sealed bearing headset (Nashbar, 1" threaded) and something doesn't feel right. Its very smooth and it tracks fine when I ride it with no hands, but there seems to be just the slightest amount of sticking or resistance when I go to make a fast turn. Its not the index type sticking from damaged BB headsets, just a slight resistance to turning.

I've adjusted the headset so there is no play, but if I were to back off the adjustment nut 30 degrees or so, I would feel some play.

Am I doing something wrong?

San Rensho 07-24-07 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by vpiuva (Post 4920623)
Sounds like maybe the cups aren't parallel. I've used that same headset and didn't have a problem. Knock on wood.

Good point. I painted the frame and just had the headtube and fork crown faced. Wonder if the mechanic messed up?

rmfnla 07-24-07 04:15 PM

Pretty hard to mess that up if the proper tool is being used.

Maybe the bearing mounts (cups for loose balls) aren't seated completely.

San Rensho 07-28-07 01:09 PM

Well, the problem was machanical failure. As a mechanic, I was a failure.

I took it apart, measured the parralelism between the cups, which was fine so it wasn't the LBS milling job on the headtube that was causing the binding.

I examined the upper and lower sealed bearings and they looked to be identical, so I swapped top to bottom. Apparently they are not identical and now that the bearings are in the right place, the headset works like a dream.

Oh well, live and learn.

rmfnla 07-29-07 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by San Rensho (Post 4952432)
Well, the problem was machanical failure. As a mechanic, I was a failure.

I took it apart, measured the parralelism between the cups, which was fine so it wasn't the LBS milling job on the headtube that was causing the binding.

I examined the upper and lower sealed bearings and they looked to be identical, so I swapped top to bottom. Apparently they are not identical and now that the bearings are in the right place, the headset works like a dream.

Oh well, live and learn.

I'd be interested to learn if there really is any difference between those bearings (do they have different part #s?) or if Arnie has struck yet again...

San Rensho 07-30-07 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by rmfnla (Post 4958815)
I'd be interested to learn if there really is any difference between those bearings (do they have different part #s?) or if Arnie has struck yet again...

I looked at them pretty closely, and I couldn't see a difference, but when I switched them, the space between the adjustable race and the top cup was different, so I guess I'm assuming they are different.

Who is Arnie?


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