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Old 07-20-03, 10:40 PM   #1
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Frame bent, what can be fixed?

It is very important for me to hear other people's opinions on this issue, at this time.
The frame of my bicycle (early 80s Schwinn Traveler), has be vandalized and appears to be bent. The wheels are no longer in one line. Seems like the rear fork drops are the main problem, with possible some front fork dismissal.

How common is it to straighten the bent frames?
I know there is special equipment for that, however,
can a frame be straightened back perfectly, or do some people prefer not to use that frame anymore (as in auto body's's case..).

Any thoughts and information would be very appreciated.
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Mr. Ino.....

Man, that sucks. If it's not too severe, steel frames can be bent back into near perfect alignment. How bad is it? Was your bike kicked or what? Would you like to borrow my Barretta? (not a bike)
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Thank you George.


Well, it was pretty bad in the first place, if I push it by the seat, it would go right very sharply and if looking from the rear rear wheel had both camber and caster misalignment...
I tried to straighten it today and it is a little better, but there is no way i can ride hands free anymore... it still pulls to the side.
I believe the guy was stepping and and throwing it, intentionally to bend the frame.
Anyhow, I will try to get an inquire in the bike shop tomorrow...
Oh yeah, the rear cog is out of alignment too, so the chain jumps off...
We'll see...
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Geez.....sounds bad. Maybe it's time for a new-used rig. Do you commute by bike everyday?
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George, I was planning to leave for a cross Country trip tomorrow.

Thank god this article answered all my questions and gave me a hope.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/bicycles-fa...ection-44.html
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George, I was planning to leave for a cross Country trip tomorrow.

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.....you mean by bike? Great! But I wouldn't load up your bike even if you were able to straighten your frame. What if there are other hidden damages to your frame? You wouldn't wanna get stuck in 120 degree temps in the middle of nowhere...
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Ino,

Take the bike to a framebuilder they can realign the frame
for you (a LBS can do this too), I don't think I would
try this myself, too much chance of messing up and
really damaging the bike.

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Ino,

Take the bike to a framebuilder they can realign the frame
for you (a LBS can do this too), I don't think I would
try this myself, too much chance of messing up and
really damaging the bike.

Marty,
Yeah, I am going to take it there in few hours to see what they can offer.

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But I wouldn't load up your bike even if you were able to straighten your frame. What if there are other hidden damages to your frame? You wouldn't wanna get stuck in 120 degree temps in the middle of nowhere...
George, Thank You.
I know it's not the best situation, but I don't have much choice, if it breaks on the road, I will walk to nearest town and find something else... Maybe some other used bike, maybe a welder . I remember they asked a guy that cycles around the world, why does he choose the steel frames, he said that it's because they are easier to repair, and can be hard to find an aluminum welder in third world countries...

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Mr. Ino.....

So how far are you planning go? If I had the time, this is something I'd like to do...find a safe camping spot each night.
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Inoplanetyanin, What happened to the bike? Did you just have it outside and someone decided to vandalize it? I go to Ohio State and that is one of my biggest fears. No matter how well I lock up my bike I cannot stop someone from crushing it. The problem is only really bad though on the weekend nights when the drunks are coming back from parties, it is kind of sad to watch a group of 10 or so mangle a whole row of bikes on a bike rack in a minute or so.

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If it's worth $50-60 to you, take it to a frame bulder. He may be able to straighten it.

I doubt that it's worth the money-you can buy fairly decent old heavy Schwinn bikes for $20 in just about any charity store.
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Went to the shop, merely a shop, not fancy show room. The guy is confident that he can straighten it out for around $50, front fork is bent, rear a little, plus it needs rim truing and rear derailleur, but last two things I will do myself.
Yoho, found a real nice place to park the car and parking ticket is paid, almost ready to take off.

George, my planned destination is NY city, via Canada, from there possibly with a bike, fly either to Amsterdam or Moscow... but there is enough time to decide and riding to do for right now.
I have no idea about where I am going to camp, right now I am only concerned with getting out of LA in one day.

Dave, it's hard for me to just value the bike like that, because I have put much time work and money in it, since I bought it. Maybe too much...
I will see, if there will be exactly similar frames along the way and mine will give any troubles, I could get the frame and still use all the new components it has on it now. To paint the frame in favorite color is not too big of a job... Time will show.
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Mr. Ino....

So you're heading up northward from LA to Vancouver initially, and cutting across? When will your bike be ready to go?
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Ouch! I feel bad for you. Right before a big trip. That's a pretty low blow.

I hope the frame gets straightened out well. Be sure to test the bike out fully loaded before you take off on your trip. Make sure it doesn't start vibrating at high speed.
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Mr. Ino....

Make sure you post a photo of your loaded bike on departure day. And also keep us posted throughout your journey.
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Thank you everybody for the advices and helpful thoughts.
Fortunately, the B&H Cycles in South Pasadena was able to straighten the frame. He also trued the wheel, (which I didn't ask for ) for the total of $45.
Now the bicycle goes in a very straight line and goes absolutely straight with hands off the bar.

So, the frames can be fixed, if damage is not too severe.

P.M. George, thank you to you especially. I will make sure to take a picture of the bike when it's loaded tomorrow; and will definitely check out the forums with every opportunity.

Best regards to everybody!

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srry 2 hear that, i no wut its like 2 brake a frame, my frame on the other hand was not fixable, it wus like a year ago, i wus riding down the street going to an ofroad course, wen my brakes tightened, i tol my friends to stop cuz i wanted 2 wut happaned, i look at the back back of the frame where the back shock was beeing held in, the weld gave way, the stupid lil ppl hu made tyhe bike didnt wanna waste their money on fully making the back of the frame a triangle, they just put a lil pice of metal hoping it would be just as good, the frame would b 2 hard 2 weld cuz its aluminum, so i just returned it after like arguing for 3 hours for a full refund . and got my self a Giant NRS3
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At least you got the Giant in the end.
Oh and by the way, it's a good job on arguing too, I an never do that and they always leave me at a loss
Nice avatar by the way
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srry 2 hear that, i no wut its like 2 brake a frame, my frame on the other hand was not fixable, it wus like a year ago, i wus riding down the street going to an ofroad course, wen my brakes tightened, i tol my friends to stop cuz i wanted 2 wut happaned, i look at the back back of the frame where the back shock was beeing held in, the weld gave way, the stupid lil ppl hu made tyhe bike didnt wanna waste their money on fully making the back of the frame a triangle, they just put a lil pice of metal hoping it would be just as good, the frame would b 2 hard 2 weld cuz its aluminum, so i just returned it after like arguing for 3 hours for a full refund . and got my self a Giant NRS3
I thought this was an english language forum?
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I thought this was an english language forum?
...funny thing is I was able to read and understand his language, which I assume is Canadian.....
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HA!!!!! yea i am canadian, and im sorry about the short forms, im to used to text messaging and msn messenger , by the wai how did u no im canadian? :confused:

Cherio!!
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by the wai how did u no im canadian? :confused:

Cherio!!
Well, I have a couple friends from Toronto who write like you do...
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lol ohhhhhh i get it, its written in my location lol ok i got it thnx!...
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