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    bike build up project

    now my list isnt complete but its very close
    i can afford these parts over a period of time by taking a certain percentage out of each of my paychecks
    but thats not the point
    heres whats going to happen
    im going to list all of the parts that i want to build this bike out of
    and then im going to ask a series of questions
    i would like you to answer them, and also i need to know what i am missing
    its funny but i cant think of anything else
    also make reccomendations on the parts that i am missing and post links to where you can buy them please
    heres the component list:
    2005 Jamis Dakar XC Pro Frame
    Avid Code- Four Piston brake (rear brake only)
    Avid Ball Bearing 7- Mechanical Disk Brakes (front brake only)
    Avid Speed Dial 7 (front only)
    Shimano XTR FC-M970 Hallowtech II Crank set
    Shimano XTR FD-M970 Top Swing Front Derailleur
    Shimano XTR RD-M971 Top-Normal Rear Derailleur
    Shimano Xt M760 Shift Lever Set
    Shimano XTR CS-M970 9-Speed Cassette
    Kenda Tomac Nevegal UST Tubeless Kevlar Tire
    Syncros Mental Pedal Alloy

    okay i know that i am missing rims
    so what would you recommend? i would like them to be black in color and to be 26" and be disk brakes compatiable
    do i even need the Avid Speed Dial 7 brake lever?
    does one come with the avid bb7?
    so what am i missing and what do you recommend to fill in the gaps
    thanks for all of your help and suggestions

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    Seatpost & saddle? try e-Bay or Alfred e Bike
    visit my homebuilding blog: www.monoplanar.blogspot.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by coralor View Post
    OK on this site , you discover a several manner to built BMX

    um..............
    what?
    sadly i cant read that

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    I like the idea of taking a little bit out of your check each week. Very good thinking on your part. Try putting the money in the bank until you have enough saved to buy the entire build kit. You will save a TON of money on shipping charges by buying all the parts from one place at one time. IMO, you should just buy a build kit and not mess with all the different parts. Just buy a complete XT build kit from Colorado Cyclist and have it shipped all at once. Good luck

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    You still need a fork, stem, bars, grips, seat, seatpost, seatpost binder, grips, tubes, wheels and chain, just off the top of my head. I would strongly recommend stepping downfrom XTR to XT or LX, which are still pro-grade parts, but at a much lower pricepoint. XTR is great, but if you aren't a pro-level racer or someone with a pile of cash, it's a bit overkill and you won't notice much difference in performance, if any. Remember, XT was Shimano's top of the line for years.

    Second, I would also match the front and rear brake. It's not a necessity, but it will simplify things for you and probably look less parts-bin. cs1's idea of a full build kit is a pretty good one, although there are less expensive options than Colorado Cyclist.

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    You still need:

    Hubs
    Spokes
    Headset
    Seatpost
    Seatpost collar
    Saddle
    Fork
    Handlebars
    Stem
    Grips

    And ditto on the XT.
    Good night...and good luck

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    can anyone recommend any good rims that would go with my set up and disk brakes?
    or can someone tell me how to find out if the rim is disk brake compatiable

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    You probably shouldn't try building up wheels at this point (learning), so look for some complete, disc-compatible wheels. There are lots of wheelsets available. Look for something like this:

    http://www.blueskycycling.com/produc...isc-Brakes.htm

    Heck, there's a Deore/SunRhyno wheelset that comes with a full set of Hayes disc brakes for $160. Can't beat that for a build!

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    In addition to what others here have said, I wonder about the decision to use hydraulic brakes on the rear and mechanical on the front. Your front brake is where you need the stopping power. Or for that matter, hydraulic at all. Aren't they heavier? If mechanical is good enough up front, why not in the rear?


    Nice frame choice (but see below). Don't waste your money on XTR. And buy the group as a set. You might be able to find last year's group for even more savings.


    How much do you weigh? What kind of riding do you intend to do? You can't spec a bike by how pretty the pictures of the parts look in a catalog. You have to match them to the intended use.
    Stupidity got us into this mess - why can't it get us out?

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    i put mechanicals up front and hydros in the back for this simple reason
    i dont want to fly over the handle bars
    therefore i will be using the rear brakes alot more than the front
    and the only reason why i dont have both mechanical would be what if one fails
    say the hydro? you wont really be able to tell until you go to touch the brakes
    so the mechanical is there for a back up to the hydro.
    or am i wrong in assuming the hydrolic is better than mechanical?
    what do i want to do with this bike?
    i want to take it down hills and through the mud and dirt and over the rocks and everything else

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    You're wrong in thinking that using the front brakes will send you over the handlebars. The brakes don't send you over the bars, YOU send you over the bars. As much as 100% of your braking will come from the front brake.

    You should use the hydraulic up front. There is nothing worse than being at the top of a hill, and not having enough brake power to keep stopped.

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    I agree with buying the build kit all at once, or (horrors!) consider buying a complete bike; frame components and all from your bike dealer. The cost difference will be tremendous compared to buying it piecemeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nerobro View Post
    You're wrong in thinking that using the front brakes will send you over the handlebars. The brakes don't send you over the bars, YOU send you over the bars. As much as 100% of your braking will come from the front brake.

    You should use the hydraulic up front. There is nothing worse than being at the top of a hill, and not having enough brake power to keep stopped.
    your right i would send myself over the handle bars
    and thats exactly what i dont want to happen
    so what im planning on doing is taking a set of pegs and cutting them down to an 1/8" shorter than the pedals
    and put them on the back axels
    then when i would go down the hill i would switch my feet to the pegs
    and squat on those to move the center of ballance to the rear of the bike
    allowing the entire braking system to become far more effective with the weight over the back tire
    the front tire becomes more effective and you loose the feeling of flying over the handle bars
    any time you lock up the brakes
    at least thats my take on the situation

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    Where shall we send the flowers?
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    You should read this then go try some things out and maybe rethink your brakes!
    http://sheldonbrown.com/brakturn.html

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    Okey, this is a lesson we need to teach all motorcyclists. Due to the speed bicycles run, a lot of people get away without it.

    Take your current bike, and try and flip over the handlebars. Try it! Get good at it. You're admitting you lack the subtle control that you need to efectively brake with a bicycle, or even a car. (your car has a 70/30 split or worse with the brake bias)

    It's a skill you should learn. :-) Get good at it. It will make you a much, much better rider. (I learned this lesson back in high school.)

    Now your thought of mounting pegs to the back of the bike is a bad idea. It will give the bike a really good way of biting a hole in your calf when you fall off on a downhill. Moving your legs back like that won't make a signifigant change in the amount of weight you can get over the back of the bike. If you want to brake hard, or go down a hill, just lean back. There have been times where I've had my seat square in the middle of my chest.

    You'll probally get away with this... But if you did it on a motorcycle, as a community we'd be making a pool to see when you died. Thankfully bikes are more forgiving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HillRider View Post
    I agree with buying the build kit all at once, or (horrors!) consider buying a complete bike; frame components and all from your bike dealer. The cost difference will be tremendous compared to buying it piecemeal.
    +1000

    Not to mention the HUGE savings over piece meal buying, you eliminate all the other hassles. When you buy a build kit from a reputable shop, everything you need is in the box. No posting stuff like "What do I need for my new build."

    You are making a very fun project into a nightmare in a big *ss hurry. IMO, buy what you want and learn from your mistake. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedoe View Post
    your right i would send myself over the handle bars
    and thats exactly what i dont want to happen
    so what im planning on doing is taking a set of pegs and cutting them down to an 1/8" shorter than the pedals
    and put them on the back axels
    then when i would go down the hill i would switch my feet to the pegs
    and squat on those to move the center of ballance to the rear of the bike
    allowing the entire braking system to become far more effective with the weight over the back tire
    the front tire becomes more effective and you loose the feeling of flying over the handle bars
    any time you lock up the brakes
    at least thats my take on the situation
    Okay, you're officially taking the piss with this whole thing aren't you? This has to be the single most absurd thing I've ever read on this board. Everything from putting XTR cranks on your Target biketo putting pegs on the back, you're absolutely trolling here. I'm done "helping" you with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMF View Post
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