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Old 07-28-07, 09:06 AM   #1
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How to remove FF/Front Freewheel rear cluster?

Ok, I've searched and searched on this, and found nada. I need to get the cassette off of one of these to replace a spoke. How the deuce do you do this? I've seen oblique references to some special tool, but nothing more than that. I'm willing to risk trashing the wheel if there's some way to do it with a drift pin and BFH or whatever.

BTW, it turns out that "FF" stands for "Friction Freewheel"
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Old 07-28-07, 05:37 PM   #2
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I believe a standard Shimano freewheel removal tool works.

Park version would be FR-1 I think. Verify before buying one.

Any LBS should be able to do it for you.

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Old 07-28-07, 05:43 PM   #3
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http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=48

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You may have to remove some axle nuts before you can install the remover, and it is not advisable to disassemble the "freewheel". It actually does freewheel (or some did as I recall) as a safeguard against jammed cranks, and has a bunch of little pawls and other giblets inside.
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Eh, nothing about these on the park page, but looking at some pics it looks like neilG is right, you have to pull the axle and then a standard tool goes in there.

Taking these apart is indeed a no-go, each cog is actually a primitive freewheel with pawls to prevent carnage if it gets jammed. The best part about these rigs is that they usually came with positron shifting -- tons more fun. Anybody know what you do once the linkage cable snaps on those (besides rebuild with a normal shifters and RD)?
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There's some on Ebay. Check any bike shop that's been around for 30 years and they might have some cables lying around.
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Eh, nothing about these on the park page, but looking at some pics it looks like neilG is right, you have to pull the axle and then a standard tool goes in there.

Taking these apart is indeed a no-go, each cog is actually a primitive freewheel with pawls to prevent carnage if it gets jammed. The best part about these rigs is that they usually came with positron shifting -- tons more fun. Anybody know what you do once the linkage cable snaps on those (besides rebuild with a normal shifters and RD)?
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After removing the rear axle, neither the fr-1 or fr-7 fit in the forward freewheel cluster.

I am also trying to remove the bottom bracket cups for a three piece forward freewheel bottom bracket. I've done this before at the other shop I worked at. There are splines on the inside of the bottom bracket cups and they do thread out, but I can't figure out which remover tool has this 12 spline pattern.
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I just found the answer to this question doing a search about a week ago and for the life of me today I can't seem to find it. If this is for an old Schwinn World Tourist with front freewheel, you should need the old style freewheel tool from Shimano. I have one ordered from Sheldon's Place. (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/freewheel.html) part number TL2022. I haven't tested it yet, since it hasn't arrived but I measured mine with calipers and the deminsions are correct.

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Frame built for the shimano FFS, can a new BB be used?

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After removing the rear axle, neither the fr-1 or fr-7 fit in the forward freewheel cluster.

I am also trying to remove the bottom bracket cups for a three piece forward freewheel bottom bracket. I've done this before at the other shop I worked at. There are splines on the inside of the bottom bracket cups and they do thread out, but I can't figure out which remover tool has this 12 spline pattern.

That's the one in the link above^. AKA 'old style' or 'thick wall' Shimano freewheel remover. Any established LBS should have one.
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The freewheel puller usually can remove the freewheel without pulling the axle.
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The freewheel puller usually can remove the freewheel without pulling the axle.
Yes, but the Front Freewheel requires the older Shimano freewheel tool. The Bicycle Research CT-4 is the same: http://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...item_id=BR-CT4 . It's smaller in diameter than newer Shimano tool and Park FR-1.

In order to get this tool to engage the freewheel splines, you need to remove the axle spacer on the right side of the hub. This should reveal the splines on the inside of the freewheel.
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