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Old 08-01-07, 01:45 PM   #1
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Multi-tool recommendation?

Are all multi-tools created equal? Is there one brand that is better than others? What tools should i look for in a basic emergency on the road repair tool? Is there one particular multi-tool that everyone likes? Do they make a multi-tool that has good tire tools in it? Are some things a lot better as stand alone items than attached to a 12 pound swiss-army wrench?

I just bought a seat pouch and I'd like to put something useful in there between my cell phone and my pop-tart.
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Old 08-01-07, 01:54 PM   #2
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I just bought a seat pouch and I'd like to put something useful in there between my cell phone and my pop-tart.
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I my self work at a local bike shop and picked up a crank brothers multi 5 (3 4 5 and 6 mm hex and phillips ) Love the thing it stays on my hydration pack (as well as my pump tube and 2 pedros tire levers. Crank brothers also make multi 17 that has torx more hex 8 and 10 mm wrench as well as 4 sizes of spoke tools and a chain tool(aka chain breaker). My boss has a old cardboard box full of various broken multi tools. A fair number of various park tools ones in there (5 of them i believe).

Just looked up the weight on the multi 5 and multi 17 185g for multi 17 and 85 for the multi 5.
The multi 17 is right around 27 bucks the multi 5 is 10 the pedros tire levers are like 2.35 or some such.
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The Topeak Alien 2 is pretty good. Performance also sells this one that is decent and on sale:

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4217

The Alien includes a chain tool, though, so if you don't mind spending the extra money it's a good choice.

edit: Oops. I should have looked closer. Performance has this multi-tool w/chain tool and it's on sale too:

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4217

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Old 08-01-07, 02:10 PM   #4
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I have an older alien tool that I really like and I would also recommend them.
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I have an older alien tool that I really like and I would also recommend them.
Heh i forgot bout topeak don't know how but i did. They are another great choice. A few non essential non bike related tools though. I was using some guys park tool tire lever (from one in another post here in topic) and it busted where the spoke wrenches are. The only down side is topeak stuff tends to be much more pricey compared to crank brothers. Though you do get a bit more (needed or not with topeak and they do have some crazy nice bags and packs at nice prices.
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Is there one brand that is better than others?
If one brand was obviously better, everyone would buy it and the rest would go out of business. Then again, getting a universal consensus on this forum on anything is never going to happen.

That said, here is my choice: The smallest, lightest and one of the least expensive multi-tools is the Park MT-1 "dog bone". It has 3,4,5,6, and 8 mm Allen bits, 8,9 and 10 mm box wrenches and a flat screwdriver small enough to turn der limit screws. Combined with a small light chain tool like the Ritchey CPR-5 it will do most field repairs and adjustments.
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Anyone have experience with SKS?
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I think that it depends on the bike. think through your bike and try to find a multi tool that has tools for everything on your bike with no extra tools.

In general, I prefer to work with individual tools. An individual spoke wrench, for example is more convenient to use than one that's connected to a pound of other stuff. If you're trying to tighten a water bottle cage bolt. an individual allen wrench will fit better than a folding allen wrench set. I'm also fond of the individual Park mini chain tool.

The next thing to consider is your bike. If you have disc brakes, for example, a multi tool that has a torx bit might be a real good thing to have. If you don't have disc brakes, it's just another piece of metal that you'll never use. If you're doing real mountain biking, a chain tool is a good thing to have with you. In decades of road riding I've never encountered the need for one.

Then there's the tools that are often left out. An 8mm allen wrench goes on the top of that list. The longer the handle, the better for retightening your crank bolt. Park used to make a tool that had a 32mm headset wrench on one end and a 32mm pedal wrench on the other. It had slots for mounting under a water bottle cage. Hardly anybody needs a headset wrench today but a pedal wrench might come in handy.
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That said, here is my choice: The smallest, lightest and one of the least expensive multi-tools is the Park MT-1 "dog bone". It has 3,4,5,6, and 8 mm Allen bits, 8,9 and 10 mm box wrenches and a flat screwdriver small enough to turn der limit screws. Combined with a small light chain tool like the Ritchey CPR-5 it will do most field repairs and adjustments.
I've carried one of them for years along with a Topeak Alien XS. Good tool

That said, multi-tools are meant to be used in a pinch, not as a primary tool for working on your bike. Nothing competes with a proper set of tools when working at home / in a shop.
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Are all multi-tools created equal? Is there one brand that is better than others? What tools should i look for in a basic emergency on the road repair tool? Is there one particular multi-tool that everyone likes? Do they make a multi-tool that has good tire tools in it? Are some things a lot better as stand alone items than attached to a 12 pound swiss-army wrench?

I just bought a seat pouch and I'd like to put something useful in there between my cell phone and my pop-tart.
Yeah there are ones that are crap and those that aren't. There's 2 criteria I usually look at

1) durability of the bits
2) ergonomics
3) has everything I need

Ironically the $5 multitool I got at MEC was way better than the $12 one I got off PBK. Ergonomics.
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I have a Park mtb-3 which is pretty big and pretty heavy but it's got everything and seems to be quite robust so far. I feel pretty confident throwing that and a patch kit into my bag and nothing else.
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Blackburn Toolminator has been pretty good to me so far. Finally got to use the chainbreaker last week when building a new bike too.
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I like my Park MT (4?). It's big and heavy, but it has nice things like 8, 9, and 10 box wrenches. And it's set up nicely to use two tools at once, which I think is a problem with other tools. Did I mention it's heavy?
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[That said, multi-tools are meant to be used in a pinch, not as a primary tool for working on your bike. Nothing competes with a proper set of tools when working at home / in a shop
Absolutely. Multi tools are field/ emergency tools. They are not intended for or should be considered shop or routine use tools.

They are like frame or mini pumps. They are expected to get you home after a flat, not to keep your tire pressure up on a routine basis. Get the proper tools and pump for regular use.
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I have a crankbros 19. it has everything you need for field repairs and its made out of quality materials. i have put more torque through it then i should have with no issues of the sort yet.
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Well, I ended up going to the closest bike shop (toga) and buying the cheapest thing I could find. It was 9 bucks and its a Parktool with two screwdrivers and several hex/allen things.

Anyway, I was afraid that I was going to break off the largest hex wrench trying to loosen the bolt in my handlebar stem, but though it felt a little flimsy it worked out OK.

I wish I had held out long enough to buy something from the internet, but I really didn't want another ride ruined by the feeling that my bars were in the wrong place. Argh!

Long story short, my bike is still a POS, but at least its comfortable now.
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Old 08-02-07, 08:48 AM   #17
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I've carried one of them for years along with a Topeak Alien XS. Good tool

That said, multi-tools are meant to be used in a pinch, not as a primary tool for working on your bike. Nothing competes with a proper set of tools when working at home / in a shop.
+1

I have settled on carrying one of these Park multi tools on my Lemond, light weight and still has enough leverage to turn some of the tighter screws.

I have a collection of half a dozen others that are too heavy, have too many tools that I don't need or are so small that they really are useless.

But, when I'm touring I carry real tools.
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a Quick Tools

a new idea is this multi tool :
http://www.trigcycling.com/Mountain.html
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a new idea is this multi tool :
http://www.trigcycling.com/Mountain.html
Not exactly a "new" idea, but cool anyway.





+1 on the Park MT-1 & the small Park chaintool. Does anyone know if there is anywhere that still has the original Cooltool (with the adjustable wrench) available? I would like to have one for the collection. The Gerber pics above had me thinking about the old mountainbike days...
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I really like my Topeak Hexus 16 Multi-Tool. It has everything that I need, complete with tire-levers that pop off the side, and is flat and slim, which makes it easier fit and access into my wedge bag. It has come in handy plenty of times on the road.
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