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Old 09-19-07, 01:46 PM
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Deore hub w/ 105 casette?

I need to replace the back wheel on an '05ish jamis quest, which is mostly 105. As I'm a major clydesdale, I want it to be bombproof, and as I'm doing a century in a couple weeks, I'd rather have someone else build it. I was looking at this:

https://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/WECRDIM/WE7037

This dimension wheel uses a Deore LX 36h hub. Would this work w/ my 105 roadie drive train?

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The cassette will fit the freehub, but the hub has axle spacing of 135mm. Since your bike is a road bike, it likely has 130mm rear dropout spacing. You could respace the hub, removing spacers and redishing the wheel, or you might be able to squeeze the 135mm hub between the 130mm dropouts. In the case of a modern road bike like yours, I'd look for a wheel with 130mm axle spacing.
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Originally Posted by well biked
The cassette will fit the freehub, but the hub has axle spacing of 135mm. Since your bike is a road bike, it likely has 130mm rear dropout spacing. You could respace the hub, removing spacers and redishing the wheel, or you might be able to squeeze the 135mm hub between the 130mm dropouts. In the case of a modern road bike like yours, I'd look for a wheel with 130mm axle spacing.
Sigh, what about this:

https://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/WERDDIM/WE9143


On the other hand, we're just talking about half a centimeter here. Is it really asking for trouble just to bend the fork ends out a bit?

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Originally Posted by quester
Sigh, what about this:

https://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/WERDDIM/WE9143


On the other hand, we're just talking about half a centimeter here. Is it really asking for trouble just to bend the fork ends out a bit?

Thanks,
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As far as flexing the stays apart, I'll leave that decision up to you. It's certainly been done (I've done it on steel frames), but assuming your frame is aluminum and it has relatively short stays (think stiff), it's probably going to be rather inconvenient at the least. If you've got carbon fiber seatstays, I wouldn't do it regardless. As for the wheels, the fact that they both have 36 spokes is a very good thing. Personally, I'd go for the 105 hub/Open Pro rim for your particular bike. A little more money, but it should fit your frame; worth it in my opinion-
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As far as flexing the stays apart, I'll leave that decision up to you. It's certainly been done (I've done it on steel frames), but assuming your frame is aluminum and it has relatively short stays (think stiff), it's probably going to be rather inconvenient at the least. If you've got carbon fiber seatstays, I wouldn't do it regardless. As for the wheels, the fact that they both have 36 spokes is a very good thing. Personally, I'd go for the 105 hub/Open Pro rim for your particular bike. A little more money, but it should fit your frame; worth it in my opinion-
The jamis is steel, so presumably this would work.
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One other thing: I don't know how wide a tire your frame and fork have clearance for, or what your preference is for tire width, but the Salsa rim is usually used for 29" mountain bikes, I think. The rim might be too wide to run a tire less than 25-28mm wide.
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The Salsa rim looks like it has a 22.5 mm width, which I think would really limit you to larger tires. I saw on the forums once (can't find it now) that the minimum tire width you can run is equal to 1.4 times rim width, in this case 31.5 mm. There is a more conservative estimate at Sheldon Brown's website: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire_sizing.html#width.

All this said, I'd recommend the Open Pro rim. It'll be a very solid wheel, especially at 36 spokes, and it doesn't require any frame modification to fit your bike. I ride with a few Clydesdales who swear by their Open Pros, and most of them only use 32 spokes. Plus, you'll be able to choose from the standard range of road tire sizes.
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if you're doing a century in a couple of weeks you might want to consider running the largest diameter tire your frame can accommodate. generally fatter is more comfortable and not noticeably slower. why would you want to run anything smaller than 25 anyway?
Purely anecdotal, but I ran a 1-1/4" rear tire on an mavic a719 touring rim, which is rather wide (24.5 outside per speedgoat.com), and never had any problems

edit: Open Pros are very nice rims though. Don't think you'd go wrong with either wheel
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Originally Posted by jeff^d
The Salsa rim looks like it has a 22.5 mm width, which I think would really limit you to larger tires. I saw on the forums once (can't find it now) that the minimum tire width you can run is equal to 1.4 times rim width, in this case 31.5 mm. There is a more conservative estimate at Sheldon Brown's website: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire_sizing.html#width.
I went ahead and ordered the Open Pro yesterday for exactly this reason. I've been able to run *some* 28's (forte's seem fine, armadillo not) on the quest, but certainly nothing larger. The limiting tolerance is between the tire and the brakearms.

Thanks again for all the help.

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