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Old 10-09-07, 08:42 PM
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How can you tell how narrow your BB should be on fixed gears?

I have a converted Panasonic and I think the mechanic put in something like a 68x119 - it just seems like the Q factor is kind of wide (my heels are about 1 1/4 from hitting the rear chain stays).

The chainline is OK, but it good be better. How narrow can I go? I see 69x103 is the narrowest. Would something like 68x107 68x109 be a safe bet? I use 175mm cranks and hav size 12 feet. I want a better chainline, but don't want to start slamming the chainstays.
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Originally Posted by Sincitycycler
I have a converted Panasonic and I think the mechanic put in something like a 68x119 - it just seems like the Q factor is kind of wide (my heels are about 1 1/4 from hitting the rear chain stays).

The chainline is OK, but it good be better. How narrow can I go? I see 69x103 is the narrowest. Would something like 68x107 68x109 be a safe bet? I use 175mm cranks and hav size 12 feet. I want a better chainline, but don't want to start slamming the chainstays.
You can't generalize about BB spindle length, because it varies with the configuration of the specific make/model of crank you are using.

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Is your ring in the inner or outer position? If it's on the inner then you could move it to the outer with a shorter spindle. But the most important issue is the chainline. If you're using a standard flip/flop or track hub you need 42mm.
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Originally Posted by vpiuva
Is your ring in the inner or outer position? If it's on the inner then you could move it to the outer with a shorter spindle. But the most important issue is the chainline.
You'll also need to deal with the crank spider hitting the frame before the chainring if you move it to the outer with a shorter BB. Just something to keep in mind of. And crank & heel clearance on the chainstay as well.

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How narrow can I go? I see 69x103 is the narrowest. Would something like 68x107 68x109 be a safe bet? I use 175mm cranks and hav size 12 feet. I want a better chainline, but don't want to start slamming the chainstays.
The narrowest cart bbs are 68x103. Nobody can tell you whether it'll work or not because you

a) have not provided any information whatsoever
b) really have to measure stuff out for yourself
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Originally Posted by vpiuva
Is your ring in the inner or outer position? If it's on the inner then you could move it to the outer with a shorter spindle. But the most important issue is the chainline. If you're using a standard flip/flop or track hub you need 42mm.
Inner. 120mm hub spacing. I am using a Mavic CXP Track wheel.
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Originally Posted by Sincitycycler
Inner. 120mm hub spacing. I am using a Mavic CXP Track wheel.
What's your current chainline (using the inner) at the crankset? Your rear will be 42mm
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Originally Posted by Sheldon Brown
You can't generalize about BB spindle length, because it varies with the configuration of the specific make/model of crank you are using.

See: https://sheldonbrown.com/chainline and https://sheldonbrown.com/bbsize

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Originally Posted by vpiuva
What's your current chainline (using the inner) at the crankset? Your rear will be 42mm
Holy crap. My chainline is 50mm!
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Originally Posted by Sincitycycler
Holy crap. My chainline is 50mm!

I think we can safely say that you should be using a shorter spindle. Check the symmetry of your current spindle and then it'll be easy to decide the correct one.
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Originally Posted by vpiuva
I think we can safely say that you should be using a shorter spindle. Check the symmetry of your current spindle and then it'll be easy to decide the correct one.
Symmetry? How do you mean?
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Originally Posted by Sincitycycler
Symmetry? How do you mean?
Measuring from the center of the BB, is the spindle equal length drive and non-drive side, or is it offset to one side? For example, my World Sport's BB is 124mm with the drive side 6mm longer than the non-drive.
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Originally Posted by vpiuva
Measuring from the center of the BB, is the spindle equal length drive and non-drive side, or is it offset to one side? For example, my World Sport's BB is 124mm with the drive side 6mm longer than the non-drive.
Wasn't aware of this. Why wouldn't the spindles be equidistant?
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Originally Posted by Sincitycycler
Wasn't aware of this. Why wouldn't the spindles be equidistant?
On triples I can understand, but doubles like my WS I couldn't give you a good answer. Have to ask SR or Schwinn I guess.
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Originally Posted by vpiuva
On triples I can understand, but doubles like my WS I couldn't give you a good answer. Have to ask SR or Schwinn I guess.
I guess it's safe to say a fixed gear should be even spindle lengths?
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