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    Skewer Lubrication

    I just got a new wheelset.
    Is there a certain type of lube I should use on the skewers before I install them?
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    I was taught by an old wrench to use a really light film ( I mean really light) of grease on skewers. It helps to keep rust away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMT114 View Post
    I just got a new wheelset.
    Is there a certain type of lube I should use on the skewers before I install them?
    Are you by any means an Iowa Hawkeye? I went to school there many many years ago!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUCAS View Post
    Are you by any means an Iowa Hawkeye? I went to school there many many years ago!

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    Yep, I went to school there ten years ago. Following school I stayed in Iowa City for a few Years until Moving back to my home town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMT114 View Post
    Yep, I went to school there ten years ago. Following school I stayed in Iowa City for a few Years until Moving back to my home town.

    I left Iowa City a day after graduation for a job in Colorado, now live in Southern California. And I have also been in your hometown of Rock Island. I use to have friends at Augustana College, and visited them often while I was living in Iowa City.

    Well, I hope my answer about greasing your new skewers help. Just rub a little pinch of lubing grease between your fore-finger and thumb, and quickly run same over the skewers.

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    Sorry to interrupt the Alumni Association meeting but back to our originally scheduled program:

    I use a drop of light oil on the flag pivot points and, as Lucas mentioned, a light film of grease on the shaft to keep it from rusting.

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    I rarely see skewers that are corroded in any serious way. I do, however, hit them lightly with grease just for the heck of it on a bike that I care about.

    I am also an Iowa alum. I have not been back much since I graduated in 1991, but I still miss Iowa City. Wonderful town.

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    there is no need to use any kind of lubricant _at all_, if the inner diameter of the axle is not constant from end to end.

    so the question is, what brand and model of hub are you using?

    and what material is is the QR rod made of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesuper View Post
    there is no need to use any kind of lubricant _at all_, if the inner diameter of the axle is not constant from end to end.

    so the question is, what brand and model of hub are you using?

    and what material is is the QR rod made of?
    The wheels are Mavic Ksyrium SL3's. So, I assume the hubs are Mavic hubs. A magnet will stick to the skewers, so they are not aluminum. I'm guessing they are just steel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesuper View Post
    there is no need to use any kind of lubricant _at all_, if the inner diameter of the axle is not constant from end to end.
    The purpose of the grease isn't lubrication but rust prevention.

    BTW, skewers that aren't steel are Ti, not Aluminum.

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    Other than the quick release end of the skewer, there aren't any moving parts in there, There shouldn't be any movement while riding, so Lubrication isn't necessary on the actual skewer. Oil on the QR pivot, and a tad of grease on the threads. You can always wax and polish the skewers, so dirt doesn't stick to them if you get any in there, and the wax will prevent rust too.

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    As HillRider stated before the grease is not used for lubrication purposes it is used to prevent rust or corrosion. I light film of grease is always recommended on the skewer and especially if the bike is ridden in an extremely humid or wet environment.

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    It's been a long time since I've seen skewers that weren't made of stainless steel. I don't know, nowadays maybe some historic hubs (i.e. NOS from ancient times). Someone said, for the heck of it a little bit of grease, but I actually don't even bother anymore, all my skewers are stainless steel. At any rate, this is a non-issue nowadays.

    Instead, I'd really love it if we had an in-depth discussion about keyed skewers and their deterrance against wheel theft. Also include bolt axels in the problematic.

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    HillRider, trust me, grease is hardly enough to _prevent_ rust. i've removed more QRs that i can remember that were slathered with grease from the hubs of pre built mavic wheels to find them spotty with rust. they MIGHT have had more without the grease but grease won't _prevent_ rust.

    at any rate...if we're talking about the mavic QRs that have a steel rod, they are usually plated or coated with something to help keep them in good shape.

    also, there are QRs with alu. rods, check out the ones from the ES wheels or the R Sys set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesuper View Post
    there is no need to use any kind of lubricant _at all_, if the inner diameter of the axle is not constant from end to end.

    so the question is, what brand and model of hub are you using?

    and what material is is the QR rod made of?
    Topolino hubs (which have CroMo axles) and USE Ti Spin Stix. Guess I could be concerned about galling or pitting response between the Ti rods and the Al nut and "bolt." But, has not been a problem over the past 5 years.
    Last edited by RockyMtnMerlin; 11-20-07 at 10:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesuper View Post
    also, there are QRs with alu. rods
    Aluminum rods? No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesuper View Post

    also, there are QRs with alu. rods, check out the ones from the ES wheels or the R Sys set.
    Hmm, the Mavic website indicates that that the R-Sys come with BR-601 series skewers which have steel rods. Various BR-601 series have either Al or composite levers but, apparently not rods..

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    OHH GAAWD.......just grease the skewer like the other poster said!!

    You ride that bike in the rain, or get it wet just once, you'll be glad you did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyMtnMerlin View Post
    Hmm, the Mavic website indicates that that the R-Sys come with BR-601 series skewers which have steel rods. Various BR-601 series have either Al or composite levers but, apparently not rods..
    That's right. Some of the boutique skewers come with Al nuts and/or flags but the rods themselves are either steel or Ti.

    Note to wroomwroomoops:

    Who provides stainless steel skewers? My new Campy Chorus hubs have skewers that appear to be plated but are not stainless steel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMT114 View Post
    I just got a new wheelset.
    Is there a certain type of lube I should use on the skewers before I install them?
    That's a "doesn't blip my radar" question. In 40+ years of bicycling I've greased some, not greased others and haven't been able to tell any difference. I've certainly never had a QR failure or problem that I could attribute to not greasing. Then again, how can it hurt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wino Ryder View Post
    OHH GAAWD.......just grease the skewer like the other poster said!!
    Ever notice how the most seemingly trivial questions can generate the most contentious threads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HillRider View Post
    That's right. Some of the boutique skewers come with Al nuts and/or flags but the rods themselves are either steel or Ti.

    Note to wroomwroomoops:

    Who provides stainless steel skewers? My new Campy Chorus hubs have skewers that appear to be plated but are not stainless steel.
    That same PDF on the Mavic site seems to indicate that the high end skewer may have a stainless steel rod. But, the way its worded, it is hard to tell. In the spec page it says, "Safety Material - High resistance steel and high resistance stainless steel," Then under that it says "Other Parts - Composite material."
    Last edited by RockyMtnMerlin; 11-21-07 at 09:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUCAS View Post
    I was taught by an old wrench to use a really light film ( I mean really light) of grease on skewers. It helps to keep rust away.
    A thick layer will also keep water out. There's no harm in it.
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    Wino Ryder, yes, let's just go with whatever old knowledge is still kicking around, even though it holds no benefit for the majority of QR rod/hub axle combinations.


    HillRider, trivial, yes. contentious, no. just trying to be accurate.

    there is too much outdated knowledge still being pushed on new riders. people still talk about cable stretch even though it takes about 80 lbs. to stretch a shift cable 1 mm. i'm not sure anyone is dropping 80 lbs. on a shift lever these days.

    chain stretch, discussing wheel dish, judging weld quality based simply on outward appearance, revolution spokes are too thin, brass nipples don't seize to spokes........ridiculous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HillRider View Post
    That's right. Some of the boutique skewers come with Al nuts and/or flags but the rods themselves are either steel or Ti.

    Note to wroomwroomoops:

    Who provides stainless steel skewers? My new Campy Chorus hubs have skewers that appear to be plated but are not stainless steel.
    Fair question. To be honest, I have been using exclusively this kind of skewers on all my bikes:

    All have stainless steel axles, even the cheapest among them (the ones that use normal hexagonal keying).

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