SRAM chain users, please I need your input:
12-17-07, 03:56 PM
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I don't know materials technology, nor do I ride in temperatures below about 10 celsius...
However, if you bought the lubricant in a sealed container, I would find it hard to believe that an expiration date has much effect. Not impoassible, but if there were an issue, I think you would notice the consistency when you were applying.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that anyone here has used the lubricant, so there is no way to compare the consistency of your grease, with someone else's experience...
I also can sense your frustration that everyone is answering questions besides what you have asked... But, everyone is trying to help.
What was the consistency of the lube? Was the viscosity low enough that you think it was able to flow into the pins, or thick enough that it may require some sort of pressure to permeate the chain?
If the viscosity is high, I wonder if heating the lube and/or chain would help to get the lube into the chain where it would help.
However, if you bought the lubricant in a sealed container, I would find it hard to believe that an expiration date has much effect. Not impoassible, but if there were an issue, I think you would notice the consistency when you were applying.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that anyone here has used the lubricant, so there is no way to compare the consistency of your grease, with someone else's experience...
I also can sense your frustration that everyone is answering questions besides what you have asked... But, everyone is trying to help.
What was the consistency of the lube? Was the viscosity low enough that you think it was able to flow into the pins, or thick enough that it may require some sort of pressure to permeate the chain?
If the viscosity is high, I wonder if heating the lube and/or chain would help to get the lube into the chain where it would help.
12-18-07, 08:34 AM
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I had my exam today (just a couple of hours ago) so I am now free to post again 
Gotta keep the discipline, before exams....
Anyway, yestarday I cleaned that darn chain and lubed it with the Gleitmo, but this time I didn't spray it on the chain. I sprayed it into a little bottle with turpentine. Then I applied it that way, and left it to dry for several hours. My intention was to make sure the Gleitmo gets into the hidden recesses of the chain - where it is most needed.
Today I did about 25 Km (to and from the Uni) and it seems to work wonderfully. AND it doesn't stain at all. I am very satisfied. Let's see how long it will last.
By the way, applying the Gleitmo this way will save a lot of lube, because the spray goes all over the place, but this solution goes only where I want it - on the chain. Even better: IN the chain.
Gotta keep the discipline, before exams....Anyway, yestarday I cleaned that darn chain and lubed it with the Gleitmo, but this time I didn't spray it on the chain. I sprayed it into a little bottle with turpentine. Then I applied it that way, and left it to dry for several hours. My intention was to make sure the Gleitmo gets into the hidden recesses of the chain - where it is most needed.
Today I did about 25 Km (to and from the Uni) and it seems to work wonderfully. AND it doesn't stain at all. I am very satisfied. Let's see how long it will last.
By the way, applying the Gleitmo this way will save a lot of lube, because the spray goes all over the place, but this solution goes only where I want it - on the chain. Even better: IN the chain.
12-18-07, 08:37 AM
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I don't know materials technology, nor do I ride in temperatures below about 10 celsius...
However, if you bought the lubricant in a sealed container, I would find it hard to believe that an expiration date has much effect. Not impoassible, but if there were an issue, I think you would notice the consistency when you were applying.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that anyone here has used the lubricant, so there is no way to compare the consistency of your grease, with someone else's experience...
I also can sense your frustration that everyone is answering questions besides what you have asked... But, everyone is trying to help.
What was the consistency of the lube? Was the viscosity low enough that you think it was able to flow into the pins, or thick enough that it may require some sort of pressure to permeate the chain?
If the viscosity is high, I wonder if heating the lube and/or chain would help to get the lube into the chain where it would help.
However, if you bought the lubricant in a sealed container, I would find it hard to believe that an expiration date has much effect. Not impoassible, but if there were an issue, I think you would notice the consistency when you were applying.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that anyone here has used the lubricant, so there is no way to compare the consistency of your grease, with someone else's experience...
I also can sense your frustration that everyone is answering questions besides what you have asked... But, everyone is trying to help.
What was the consistency of the lube? Was the viscosity low enough that you think it was able to flow into the pins, or thick enough that it may require some sort of pressure to permeate the chain?
If the viscosity is high, I wonder if heating the lube and/or chain would help to get the lube into the chain where it would help.
Most are trying to help, and some are just doing a bit of drive-by-posting. But it doesn't matter, I think I have the answer to my problem: I applied the lubricant wrongly (albeit according to the instructions on the bottle).
12-24-07, 04:22 AM
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This is not even remotely close to a complete list of the things that can effect your perception of effort.
I have used a lot of chain lubes, and while some seem to work better in terms of a quiet chain or longer life, none of them have had any influence on my performance as a rider.
I have used a lot of chain lubes, and while some seem to work better in terms of a quiet chain or longer life, none of them have had any influence on my performance as a rider.
12-24-07, 10:04 AM
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Just my $0.02, Besides the variable of temperature...
A comparison to a fresh factory chain will be difficult. Just as Sheldon Brown referenced the performance of a new factory chain, IMO, it's not a matter of the type of lube that makes for noticeable superior performance. It's how the lube is applied during the assembly process. Sufficient amounts of it is exactly where it will do the most good in a (roller) chain. Once put into service, it begins to get squeezed out, and contaminated. A solvent cleaned chain can't be relubed to the level of a new chain.
Therefore your comparison is a difficult one to yield meaningful results.
Note: Motorcycle drive chain longevity improved significantly with the use of o-rings to retain the lube.
A comparison to a fresh factory chain will be difficult. Just as Sheldon Brown referenced the performance of a new factory chain, IMO, it's not a matter of the type of lube that makes for noticeable superior performance. It's how the lube is applied during the assembly process. Sufficient amounts of it is exactly where it will do the most good in a (roller) chain. Once put into service, it begins to get squeezed out, and contaminated. A solvent cleaned chain can't be relubed to the level of a new chain.
Therefore your comparison is a difficult one to yield meaningful results.
Note: Motorcycle drive chain longevity improved significantly with the use of o-rings to retain the lube.
12-24-07, 05:16 PM
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Maybe it's your wheels.
12-24-07, 11:33 PM
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try some placebo chain lube
