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Old 12-15-07, 04:48 AM   #1
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Teflon coated "bullet" chain!

Got your attention, didn't I...

If only SRAM or KMC would procude stainless steel chains, made of teflon coated plates and pins (like "Tefal" cook ware and teflon coated bullets) chain lube would become obsolete.

No doubt the "bullet" chain would be expensive, but I guess it would sell.
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Old 12-15-07, 05:02 AM   #2
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Got your attention, didn't I...

If only SRAM or KMC would procude stainless steel chains, made of teflon coated plates and pins (like "Tefal" cook ware and teflon coated bullets) chain lube would become obsolete.

No doubt the "bullet" chain would be expensive, but I guess it would sell.

IRD Black Lightning Teflon Coated chain

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- check out the Wipperman teflon:

here.

- personally, i use Wipperman stainless - life has been good (i live in a salt-water area)...
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Old 12-15-07, 07:33 AM   #4
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Campagnolo Record Ultra chain - teflon coated

Also available from the beloved Amazon

Also in 9-speed
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Old 12-15-07, 10:39 AM   #5
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When all's said and done a teflon coated pan ain't got nuthin' on a decent stainless tri-ply, with a good bit of oil, for cookin' up a good meal...

I feel that way about chains... except about that cookin' up a good meal bit.
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I use the wipperman stainless chains.I don't lube my chains anymore.I absolutely hate getting that black permanently staining goo on my clothing.I'm a slob,and always manage to get grease/goo on my clothing,so I now wash,and degrease my chains/gogs/chainwheels with simple green.I do this about once a month.
Yes,I know it makes power transfer less efficient,and maybe-maybe- it decreases the life of the parts.I'm taking that penalty so I don't have the black goo on the chains..
Cables,derailleurs-yeah,I dot them with lubes, but not the chains or pulleys.
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PS I only ride 4 miles/day,and have 2 bikes ,so it will take a long time for any significant wear to show up.

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Very nice: "...come to think of it, frying pan makers warn against using metal utensils on teflon coatings. I wonder why?"
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OP obviously doesn't do much cooking... Teflon is not the most durable product in the world unless it is treated with kid gloves to get any longevity out of it. Severian is right on the money -- and I presume he is talking about copper-based pans sandwiched between the stainless steel. Heavy cast iron frying pans also are fantastic to use.

If you want chain cleanliness, use WD40 . If you want longevity, dump the 9 and 10sp and use 8 or less.
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If you want longevity, dump the 9 and 10sp and use 8 or less.
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- ain't that the truth! i'll *never* go to 10spd, so i guess i'll be riding 'vintage' for the rest of my life?

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I've never used ten speed stuff, but I didn't notice a difference in chain durability when I went to nine speed on a couple of my bikes. If there's a real-world durability difference in nine speed chains, I don't think it's a major one at all.

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You could also send your chains, cassettes and chainrings to boca (http://www.bocabearings.com/main1.aspx?p=lub) and they will clean and coat them all for a lubles system
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- ain't that the truth! i'll *never* go to 10spd, so i guess i'll be riding 'vintage' for the rest of my life?

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I'll never go to 10 speed, either. Well, for one, I am a singlespeeder. But I have a serious philosophical problem with manufacturers inventing Pure BullSchitt (PBS from now on) just to get people chainge their drivetrains and shifters. New chain, cassette, shifters - not sure about the chainwheels, but INSIDE-narrower chains (like the 10 speed) need a narrower chainring as well. Narrower sprockets and chainrings last shorter than wider ones. And Sheldon Brown believes that narrower chains last shorter than wider ones:
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As you go to more sprockets on the cassette, you need a narrower chain. However, using a narrower chain with an older system rarely presents any problem. Thus, you can use a "9-speed" chain with a 7-speed or 8-speed system, or a "10-speed" chain with a 9-speed system. Since the chains designated for more gears are usually more expensive and don't last as long, this is not the ideal approach, but it's perfectly workable.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/speeds.html

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...with a good bit of oil...
my grandfather back 'home' used to use olive oil that he did not sell for lubricating everything around the house: door hinges, the pulley wheel on the well, old rusty padlocks, parts on his bicycle...anything that pivoted metal on metal.

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^^^That's very interesting and very weird, because olive oil has only marginal lubricating effect, and peroxidizes VERY easily, especially at higher room temperatures (like the ones in olive oil producing countries - by the way, where are you from? Do you recognize the expression " ue'! "?)

Once (olive)oil peroxidizes, it becomes very sticky and very, very viscous - the exact opposite of a lubricant.
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OP obviously doesn't do much cooking... Teflon is not the most durable product in the world unless it is treated with kid gloves to get any longevity out of it. Severian is right on the money -- and I presume he is talking about copper-based pans sandwiched between the stainless steel. Heavy cast iron frying pans also are fantastic to use.

If you want chain cleanliness, use WD40 . If you want longevity, dump the 9 and 10sp and use 8 or less.
Stainless(copper core(aluminum inside is choice... stainless for heat transfer and wear life, copper for heat retention and aluminum for its non-conductivity and non-reactivity.

unfortunately that combination is very heavy and would never catch on in Pro cycling... I for one would be highly surprised to see a professional rider win a stage in The Tour while on a bicycle that had more than a fart's worth of copper. And steel has been passť for long time in major frame components, or so it seems.
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