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Old 12-18-07, 06:36 PM   #1
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Wheel kits

Do they have them? I Googled it and didn't come up with any. It would make it easier for beginners like me, so I don't order the wrong spokes for the rim and hub.
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I've never seen them offered for sale. I expect that complete wheels are priced so competitively that "wheel kit" can't be offered at attractive prices. So, you either buy a prebuilt wheel or buy the individual components that you spec yourself.

There are on-line spoke length calculators that will help you select the right length spokes for a given hub, rim, spoke count and cross number. Sheldon Brown has one as does DT's web site.

One learning technique is to buy a prebuilt wheel, disassemble it and rebuild it for the experience.
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Yep, the best price on a "wheel kit" would be to buy a prebuilt wheel and rebuild it for fun.
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Do they have them? I Googled it and didn't come up with any. It would make it easier for beginners like me, so I don't order the wrong spokes for the rim and hub.
Sure they do. It's called a pre-built wheelset. Buy them from whoever has them cheap and take them apart. You'll generally save a significant amount of money vs. buying the component parts separately even from the same supplier. Ain't that goofy!
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Thanks for the replys guys, I think, I'm hooked more now, than before.
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Pre Built - Yep - that's it. That's the way I learned. I'm building a set from scratch this winter but that is because I want a combination that is not commercially available. Good luck on your quest for knowledge!!
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I completely agree about prebuilt wheels being the most economical way to buy wheel parts. One thing I will caution you about, though, is to make sure the wheels come with quality spokes. Sometimes you'll see decent hubs and rims laced with no-name spokes, and the quality of the spokes is obviously very important. DT and Wheelsmith spokes are the most popular brands of good quality spokes, so make sure the wheelset specifically says they're laced with DT or Wheelsmith spokes.
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I've had good luck bumming parts off LBSes and grabbing used (but in decent condition) wheels on Ebay. It takes time, digging, and a good relationship with the guys at the LBS. Also, of course you can't be picky about what you come across.
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At the risk of being branded a Shill, there's an e-book you can download as a pdf file from Roger Musson's website in the UK that takes you by the hand and teaches you step by step how to build wheels in plain English with lots of extraordinary illustrations. The book is called Wheelbuilding, 4th edition. I've successfully built half a dozen wheelsets so far using only this book, an inexpensive truing stand, a Park TM-1 tension meter, and the full strength version of Damon Rinard's Spocalc.

If I can do it, anybody can.
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Thanks again guys, I have Jobst Brandt book on "the Bicycle Wheel" and I have used it besides the help from you here on the forum. I have all the tools I need, all I need is more practice. After buying a new bike a few months ago and the wheel tools this month, I'll have to wait until after the holidays to get some wheels. I was just on Peter White's web site and he appears to be pretty high. I had saved something on wheels from some place in Colorado, but I can't open the site now. I'll just wait and get it later, thanks again.
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