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Old 01-01-08, 08:54 PM
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Help set me straight on Shimano 10s compatibility

I thought I understood but now I'm not sure....
I have a Orbea Opal; Shimano Dura Ace rear der, Mavic Ksyrium with Dura Ace CS7800 12-27 cassette.
My problem: I wanted to take advantage of the SRAM OG-1070 11-28 cassette to gain a tooth on the top and bottom end. I bought a Park FR-1 Freewheel Removal tool and a SR-1 Chain Whip, thinking I was good to go. Well when the FR-1 didn't fit I knew I needed an education. Checking the Shimano "CS/HW/WH Interchangeability (Road 10-Speed)", it appears the CS7800 has deeper serrations (I'd call them splines) than what the FR-1 is designed for.

So in order to utilize the SRAM OG-1070 11-28 do I need to change my hub body to CS6600 shallow serrations? And what is the proper tool to use with the CS7800 freewheel hub?

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Wrong tool. The FR-1 is for old school screw on freewheels, you have a cassette on a freehub body. You need a Park FR-5 for both the Shimano and SRAM cassettes. Start at this webpage. With a FR-5, and your chainwhip, you should be able to switch the cassette with ease. Don't forget the Mavic and Shimano spacers.
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Is the FR-5g better since it has the guide on it or is that unecesary?
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If the freehub is Shimano 10sp only you can't use the 1070 cassette on it. Apparently this was going to be addressed in the new Red cassettes but I haven't seen one in the flesh yet to verify.

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He's got a mavic hub, you are fine and will be able to use the Sram cassette.
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
Wrong tool. The FR-1 is for old school screw on freewheels, you have a cassette on a freehub body. You need a Park FR-5 for both the Shimano and SRAM cassettes. Start at this webpage. With a FR-5, and your chainwhip, you should be able to switch the cassette with ease. Don't forget the Mavic and Shimano spacers.
Thanks DieselDan,

I think I've got it now as far as the tools is concerned. Not sure yet about the spacers but I will disassemble carefully making sure I know what order things are in.

The Park website has some good info:
https://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=48
Cassette Cog Lockring Removal and Installation and Using FR-5G with Guide Pin make it pretty clear.

Thanks,
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About the spacers, you need a 1mm wide spacer to put a 10-speed cassette on a 8/9 speed freehub body, as it is narrower. Mavic requires their own spacer, for whatever reason, for a 8 or 9 speed cassette. When you use a 10 speed cassette on a Mavic freehub, you need both the Mavic spacer and the 1mm spacer.
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