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    Spoke Machine

    Any of you shop guys have one of these?

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    http://wheelfanatyk.blogspot.com/sea...poke%20Machine
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    And note whose website it is... one of the brothers who started Wheelsmith.

    Seems the Phil machine is not the be-all and end-all of spoke cutting and thread-rolling machines...
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    What's the price on that?

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    Pssssshhhh, my LBS has some super-pimp, fully digital rolling-and-cutting machine. No clue who makes it, I think it was about $3500 or so, according to the shop owner.

    You put the raw spoke in it, the machine cuts it to specified length and rolls the threads in one motion. It is baller.

    That said, I really don't see how it's that much better than a manual machine...
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    I imagine that the machine works only with straight G... right? We used to have a ruler and a manual machine for the rethread part... no more than 30 mins in 36 spokes...

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    Can't say I have, we have the Phil one at the shop.

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    The 'big Deal', with spoke cutting/threading machines is that

    the threads are 'rolled', not cut, as with a die.

    (no stress risers!)


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    Quote Originally Posted by J T CUNNINGHAM View Post
    The 'big Deal', with spoke cutting/threading machines is that
    the threads are 'rolled', not cut, as with a die.(no stress risers!)
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    That's correct. However, Hozan made a spoke cutter/threader that did cut the threads rather than roll them. It was used for specialty wheels such as high-wheeler bikes and quick spoke replacement for one or two broken spokes. It was considered an expedient, not the best way to make spokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler View Post
    Aha, so Hozan now makes roller threading dies too. I'm almost certain they were the ones who made the thread cutting dies in the past.

    BTW, did you notice the price on the Phil Wood spoke cutter/threader from them? Only $3500!

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    Hozan have been making roller threading machines for spokes for ages. The bike shop I used to use in another city had one that was well used, and I first started going there a decade ago. Yes, it did the job for me, considering I never bevelled the ends of the spokes before starting the thread. And yes, I have had about three spokes out of 150 or so break at the threads (my fault). I think also it can be adjusted without changing the dies to suit different gauges.

    I am in the market for one at around $140 landed in Australia, and in the absence of a retailer here, I have found a US bike shop with reasonable shipping to do it. I am never going to be a pro wheelbuilder, and I live in a remote area, so threading my own spokes makes sense... and whiles away the evenings.

    As to the cost comparison, I think the Phil machine comes out around $3,900 and the one at the start of this thread at $2,900. Neither is something the casual wheelbuilder is going to invest in.
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    tasty tools! Villum trueing jig & Morizumi spoke threader.

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