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Old 01-31-08, 05:50 AM
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Bar-end shifter cabe routing and DT shifter issue

I ended up getting a set of Campagnolo 10sp bar-end shifters and they came with some long Campagnolo cables...enough to route the cables and housing under the bar tape from the bar-end shifter plug all the way up to the flat portion of the bar by the stem clamp.

Anyone experience any issues with shifting by running such a long, contorted cable housing?

Also, even though I was intending on using the bar-end shifters as downtube shifters, I'm not sure I can do that...I need to get a shifter boss stop for both levers, otherwise the levers will spin 360degrees around.

Any suggestion for that?
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Originally Posted by rodri9o
I need to get a shifter boss stop for both levers, otherwise the levers will spin 360degrees around.
who told you that?
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Originally Posted by rodri9o
Anyone experience any issues with shifting by running such a long, contorted cable housing?
I wondered the same thing, and if you do a search for it the consensus seems to be that under the bar routing is probably fine. Most people were talking about friction shifters being fine, but indexed should probably work too. Just make sure the housing is nice and tight against the bars and it shouldn't give you much trouble.

Unfortunately I routed my cables the conventional way before I realized you could route the cables under the tape. Oh well, next time I guess.
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I've got my bar end shifters routed ergo style. Shifts perfectly fine. The only thing is that you may find the rear cable barely long enough in which case a slightly longer cable or a tandem cable may be required.

Ergo routing on my Long Haul Trucker


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Originally Posted by roadfix
I've got my bar end shifters routed ergo style. Shifts perfectly fine. The only thing is that you may find the rear cable barely long enough in which case a slightly longer cable or a tandem cable may be required.
Even on a small 50cm frame, my RD inner wire came up about 4cm too short. Heading into the shop for a tandem cable in an hour or so.
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I couldn't even get ergo routing with a tandem cable in my wife's bike's case. But you should be fine.
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We'll see if there is enough cable for it...I'm sure I can get a longer cable at the shop if I need to. This is all getting mounted on a 53cm frame.



Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
who told you that?
well...I took the indexed (right side) shift lever off the bar-end pod and installed it on the boss...it kept spinning around....so I put it back on the bar-end pod.





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I've done it on two 56cm bikes. I still had just enough cable to get the RD adjusted. I used the double ended cable, maybe that's a little longer.
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Originally Posted by rodri9o
well...I took the indexed (right side) shift lever off the bar-end pod and installed it on the boss...it kept spinning around....so I put it back on the bar-end pod.
according to this dude, it is supposed to fit.
https://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.p...5&postcount=81
mine will be here in a couple days, I'll see whats up?
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Originally Posted by roadfix
I've got my bar end shifters routed ergo style. Shifts perfectly fine. The only thing is that you may find the rear cable barely long enough in which case a slightly longer cable or a tandem cable may be required.

Ergo routing on my Long Haul Trucker

Post some more of this bike! Nice build!
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Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
according to this dude, it is supposed to fit.
mine will be here in a couple days, I'll see whats up?
I'm going to take it apart again....
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Originally Posted by rodri9o
I'm going to take it apart again....
I took it apart again last night and the lever, although indexing, was spinning all around...
I think the bar-end levers will look pretty cool though:

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Originally Posted by rodri9o
I took it apart again last night and the lever, although indexing, was spinning all around...
without a cable hooked-up to a derailleur...?

edit

I see said the blind man...looks like he was full of schit! you have to use the barend stops!


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On trick is to cross the cables under the downtube by running the right-side shifter cable to the left boss and vice versa. This greatly lessens how sharp you have to make the bend between where the cable housing exits under the tape down to the boss. This might allow you to cut the housing shorter or use a housing that would be too short otherwise.

This also lessens or elminates abrasion of the housing against the side of the head tube.

The cables may touch under the downtube but the angle is so oblique, it causes no problem or wear.

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Originally Posted by roadfix
I've got my bar end shifters routed ergo style. Shifts perfectly fine. The only thing is that you may find the rear cable barely long enough in which case a slightly longer cable or a tandem cable may be required.

Ergo routing on my Long Haul Trucker


That's a good looking bike. My LHT has the shifter cables exiting straight from the bar bottoms and making a big loop out front, but the brake cables are done like like yours.

Here's mine:





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Originally Posted by poprad
Post some more of this bike! Nice build!
Thanks!

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Originally Posted by tpelle
That's a good looking bike. My LHT has the shifter cables exiting straight from the bar bottoms and making a big loop out front, but the brake cables are done like like yours.
Do you find that this kind of routing gets in the way of your hands when in the drops?
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Originally Posted by relyt
Do you find that this kind of routing gets in the way of your hands when in the drops?
Mine are set up the same way, and it does get in the way in the drops a little. I think it would be pretty easy to get used to; I just got mine set up that way so I'm not sure yet. I would rather have routed fully under the bars.

I saw another alternate routing too, where the shifter cable runs under the tape up to the hood, then exits and loops back to the stops. I would have done it this way if I still had enough cable/housing length. It looks like it wouldn't get in the way if you did it right. Check it out:

Originally Posted by Scooper
Mine is sort of a compromise between the standard lowest friction Cascade 168 routing and carrying the housings in the bar tape all the way to the stem like The Fixer and Top506. Frankly, I was afraid to try routing the housings in the bar tape all the way to the stem.

Shifting is flawless.

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I've routed the cables under the bartape on several different bikes/handlebars with no issue. So long as you don't use those cubist modolo handlebars you should be fine.
But isn't it time someone turned this into a barend vs sti thread? It's been a week or so and I feel it might be revisited. Maybe someone has some new important information to share.
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Originally Posted by thechamp
But isn't it time someone turned this into a barend vs ergo thread? It's been a week or so and I feel it might be revisited. Maybe someone has some new important information to share.
I already have ergo's on a few bikes.
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Originally Posted by thechamp
But isn't it time someone turned this into a barend vs sti thread? It's been a week or so and I feel it might be revisited.
Maybe someone has some new important information to share.
eff that! it's going 2b a dt vs bar end shifter thread!
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This thread makes me wonder if I'd rather have indexed DT or indexed Bar ends instead of STI when if and when I upgrade my trek...
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If you take your coffee black, or ride a fixed gear, your next road bike upgrade should naturally be either bar end or down tube shifters.
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Originally Posted by roadfix
...take your coffee black...
does espresso count?
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DONE!
needs to be cleaned up so it will come apart again next weekend if I can get a stand at the shop for personal use, but ti is essentially all there and working.

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