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Old 05-03-08, 05:17 AM   #1
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horizontal drop help

i have a frame with horizontal drops that also has der. hanger.When I use gears it puts front tire to close to front der.I have been told to put all the way in drops to prevent movement.Is there any type of spacer to put in drop to achieve this?
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Old 05-03-08, 06:23 AM   #2
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i have a frame with horizontal drops that also has der. hanger.When I use gears it puts front tire to close to front der.I have been told to put all the way in drops to prevent movement.Is there any type of spacer to put in drop to achieve this?
???? Moves the front tire? - TF
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???? Moves the front tire? - TF
I think he means the front OF the tire.
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To the OP: Like Turboturtle, I'm totally confused by your post....however, is it possible you are saying that your back wheel moves in the dropouts???? If so, the solution would be to use the older style quick release levers. Newer ones are not designed to "hold" as strongly and thus are not suitable for frames with horizontal dropouts.

If this is not what your problem is, please post again and be a little more clear in stating exactly what the issue is....then perhaps we can assist without having to guess what you mean.

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If so, the solution would be to use the older style quick release levers. Newer ones are not designed to "hold" as strongly and thus are not suitable for frames with horizontal dropouts.
Not really a old vs. new issue. Any genuine Shimano or Campy lever, old or new, will do the trick. Most of the boutique levers, regardless how expensive and cool looking, won't. If you can see how the cam works just by looking at the lever, that's bad.
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Not really a old vs. new issue. Any genuine Shimano or Campy lever, old or new, will do the trick. Most of the boutique levers, regardless how expensive and cool looking, won't. If you can see how the cam works just by looking at the lever, that's bad.

Yes, a much better choice of words than what I posted....I had the right idea, but clearly have not had enough coffee this morning to type a coherent thought...
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Check this out from Surly
http://www.surlybikes.com/spew12.html
they have New Karate Monkey™ Nuts for 2007 that space the rear wheel further back to prevent the front of the rear tire from hitting the front derailleur.
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If the axle is sliding forward in the horizontal dropout under pedalling force then you need to examine your wheel nut or quick-release. A correctly secured axle will not shift. You can get high-end bikes which are fitted with threaded stops to locate the axle but these play no part in securing the axle.

First check that you are tightening the QR in the correct fashion, ie as a cam lever not a bolt.
Then check that you are using an appropriate type of QR, ie a traditional Shimano/campy one that engages the frame dropouts using a steel material, not al. The metal has to bite into the surface and al is too soft.
If using nuts on a solid axle, use large track-nuts with a built-in washer and tighten with a workshop-sized wrench (about 9"), not a pocket tool.
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it is the rear tire I'm sorry it was early when I posted
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