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Old 05-08-08, 04:46 PM   #1
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weird brake pad size; identification question

Hello,
these brakes carriers came off "modolo" brakes... i need to replace one of the brake pads and unfortunately when I brought it to LBS they told me they were a weird size that isn't made anymore. They called them "old campy style" even though they are not campy brand and they thought the best thing to do was to cut down some longer brake pads to fit the carrier. I didn't want to do this because the brakes they had weren't as thick and didn't have the rounded end. I've been to a few other bike shops as well as places with a lot of used brake pads lying around, I've dug through several huge piles of discarded brake pads without finding a match. I am trying to figure out if anybody knows a more official name for these than "old campy style" so I can try looking on eBay, or if anybody knows where else I might be able to get them, if there are any other suppliers online.

The length is a little bit more than 4cm or a little under 1.5 in. Pad has a rounded end and a well in the center for the bolt to secure it to the carrier.

I am including some photos...

Thanks for any help! I don't mind if all I can find is a used pad.





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Old 05-09-08, 02:18 AM   #2
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That's a Modolo pad holder, and you need Modolo pad inserts. I have some sinterized ones, but they're not for sale.
You can buy pre-1990 Campy compatible pad inserts (like these) and round one end off with a box cutter, but I'd recommend just replacing the pads with completely new ones. The Kool-Stop Campi 2000 won't look out of place.

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That's a Modolo pad holder, and you need Modolo pad inserts. I have some sinterized ones, but they're not for sale.
You can buy pre-1990 Campy compatible pad inserts (like these) and round one end off with a box cutter, but I'd recommend just replacing the pads with completely new ones. The Kool-Stop Campi 2000 won't look out of place.
ok, that makes sense... I didn't realize that the carrier brand would also be the pad brand.

Thanks for the link and the Kool-Stop suggestion, I will look into that.
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Old 05-10-08, 04:18 PM   #4
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This is good information as well, thanks

I would agree with you that Modolo brakes are not so great for stopping power. Decent, adequate, but not at all impressive. I also like the black finish. They work pretty well and look good, this bike is for my friend and I don't think she rides super fast or downhill much so it should be fine.

I will try to track down some KS-C2's or KS-CR's, I doubt I will be able to just buy one but that's the way it goes. I am guessing the best way to round them off is with a grinding wheel? Thanks for the replies.

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I agree with all of the above as I just struggled with this
problem and also discovered the solutions offered above.
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Old-style, pre-1990 Campagnolo blocks do indeed dove-tail
into the Modolo holders nicely. I've tried it. Perfect,
except one end needs rounding. If you want current replace-
ments from Kool Stop: KS-CR (ie. KS-Campagnolo Replacements).
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I wondered myself if the KS-C2 (KS-Campagnolo 2000) would
also fit and am glad to learn here that they do. They would
be my first choice.
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I discovered all this AFTER I bought generic sets of pads
with holders from my LBS for very little money. They work
much better than my original and IMHO awful "Sinterized"
pads, which ripped through the anodizing on my nice Mavic
M-40 rims in short order (my fault).
.
The bad news is that Modolo brakes, especially the "Speedy"
model (like mine), are not known for their stopping power,
to say the least. The only reason I continue to use mine is
that their black enamel finish looks great on my dark silver
and black frameset. Am I sacrificing safety for fashion?
Maybe but they do get my bike stopped if I remember to
pull back on those levers hard when I see a light change
to red 50 yards down the road. :-)
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If I don't remember, well then I just "Speedy" straight on
through that red light and pray for the best. :-(
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That's a Modolo pad holder, and you need Modolo pad inserts. I have some sinterized ones, but they're not for sale.
You can buy pre-1990 Campy compatible pad inserts (like these) and round one end off with a box cutter, but I'd recommend just replacing the pads with completely new ones. The Kool-Stop Campi 2000 won't look out of place.
Well I got my hands on some Kool-Stop Campi 2000's... and these pads, while very close, are a bit too small to securely snap into the carriers and stay there.They are close though... I am wondering if there is any way I can secure these pads using waterproof glue, putty, etc.
I figured out that as long as I have the pads correctly matched left and right, the force of the wheel against the pad will push the pads into the closed end of the carrier, but even still these are loose enough that they may drop out.
Is this a safety situation where close isn't good enough? The exact, correct Modolo pads seem very tricky to find, and I would really prefer not to replace the brakes, so if a kludge can be safely deployed I would be into it.
Note that the front brakes have the original, correctly fitting pads, so this would only be for the rear.

THANKS!!!
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I would NOT glue the pads! Do you have a death wish? Your best option short of finding a set of modolo pads on ebay is to buy a new pad & holder molded into one unit & forget the original holder.
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I would NOT glue the pads! Do you have a death wish?
Well, it's my ex-girlfriend's bike, so I'm not that worried about it
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Yes, you don't need to change the entire brake caliper; imo you should just be able to install a new pad holder/pad combination in to the old calipers. And you can get one piece, integrated pad holder/pad styles like these Serfas below for very few dollars:

http://www.rei.com/product/752081

Kool Stop, Shimano and all the rest of the pad manufacturers make inexpensive one piece, integrated holder/pad models like the ones pictured above as well.
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Yes, you don't need to change the entire brake caliper; imo you should just be able to install a new pad holder/pad combination in to the old calipers. And you can get one piece, integrated pad holder/pad styles like these Serfas below for very few dollars:

http://www.rei.com/product/752081

Kool Stop, Shimano and all the rest of the pad manufacturers make inexpensive one piece, integrated holder/pad models like the ones pictured above as well.
awesome, this is what I will try next, thanks!
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