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Old 06-06-08, 11:27 AM   #1
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Ultegra Upgrade?

It seems this is the best forum for this question but if there is another please move it appropriately. I have a Specialized Sequoia Elite 2007...an aluminum frame with carbon fork and seatstays. I have upgraded the wheelset to Mavic Open Pro with Ultegra Hubs. I like the bike and can't afford a full carbon frame. Is it worth the cost to upgrade to an Ultegra groupset. The bike is a triple, nine speed. If I look for specials I can get it done fairly inexpensively. If I go back to the 6500 series parts, it's even less expensive; although some of the parts, like bottom brackets seem to be hard to find. I try to ride between 70-100 miles per week during the spring, summer and fall, but that is a goal and I do my best to reach it. I'm just thinking about this and would like some feedback. What do you think?
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Old 06-06-08, 11:48 AM   #2
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In general it is not a good idea to upgrade components unless you have a frame you intend to keep for years and then only when the old components wear out. Upgrading the wheels and tires may have been a good idea because that upgrade probably improved performance and if you were to find a new frame you could transfer the wheel over. Save your money for a new bike, it just makes more sense.

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Unless the parts you have are worn out or are incompatible with other parts already on the bike, it makes no sense to upgrade them. Ultegra is nice quality, but the cost difference over 105, for instance, is not worth the money IMO.
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Purchasing components for an upgrade is very expensive, and you probably won't notice the difference, unless your existing parts are very old and worn. Since you have a 2007 bike with perhaps a few 1,000 miles on it, the cost/benefit ratio isn't worth it.
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It's not a great bang for yer buck equation. I've gotten on podiums racing bikes with 105 nine speed, in fact my cross bik is even Tiagra. One thing you might want to consider depending on your riding style would be to upgrade to a double over the triple. That would be a fair bit cheaper. Basically just then cranks and maybe th rear derailler (though it isn't required.
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One thing you might want to consider depending on your riding style would be to upgrade to a double over the triple.
Ahem.

That is not an upgrade. Only a racer/weight weenie would care about the (small) weight savings enough to give up 9-10 gears.

Fwiw, while I could certainly climb without the granny I'd have to use something like a 12-27 cassette. With the triple I can use a 11-23 cassette 96% of the time. And I prefer the closer spacing of the 42/52 to the 39/53. Then there's the superior chainline.

IOW, the benefits of a triple far outweigh the .. er .. extra weight.
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I appreciate the feedback. FWIW, the bike has tiagra brakes, shifters and front FD, a sram cassette, sugino crank, and 105 RD. It's really quite sufficient for me, but I am a tinkerer and the Ultegra idea just came over me. I'm very appreciative of your insight. Any more information is greatly appreciated.
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Upgrading your shifters to 105 or Ultegra would be a definite improvement over Tiagra.
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Upgrading your shifters to 105 or Ultegra would be a definite improvement over Tiagra.
IMHO, 105 is a noticeable improvement in function/durability from Tiagra. Moving from 105 to Ultegra is only noticeable on a scale, not in actual use. I am not saying you shouldn't make the move, just that you probably can't tell the difference between 105 and Ultegra in actual use. That said, I got a 9 speed Ultegra groupo on clearance when they moved to 10 speed and it cost less than 105.
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IMHO, 105 is a noticeable improvement in function/durability from Tiagra. Moving from 105 to Ultegra is only noticeable on a scale, not in actual use. I am not saying you shouldn't make the move, just that you probably can't tell the difference between 105 and Ultegra in actual use. That said, I got a 9 speed Ultegra groupo on clearance when they moved to 10 speed and it cost less than 105.
There seems to be lots of deals around on Ultegra 9sp.
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