Brake Pads
#1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: CT
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Brake Pads
I know. Not a real glamorous subject.
I built my son a no holds barred serious BMX bike. But these "top of the line" Odysey Evolver U-brakes don't stop the thing.
Stock 2BY4 pads just slide on the chromed Araya RBJ1 rim. The levers are Odysee Modulevers with brand new Odysey cables & Gyro3.
I've heard they're even worse on anodized black aluminum rims. I can't imagind how they could be worse than this. I have sanded the pads. Aligned them with & without toe. Cleaned the rim with Simple Green (helped for 30 seconds). I even went so far as to swap out a pair of Siesta Hombres to see if that made a difference. Same pathetic results.
I've heard that kids are known to use ketchup on their brakes to make them work. This is absurd. Are these U-Brakes really this bad? If so, why are we using them?
The Evolvers are mounted under the seat stays which puts them out of harms way, but creates a serious mechanical disadvantage.
I'm wondering if there are any softer pads out there that might stick better. Koolstop Reds still around maybe?
If pads don't solve this issue maybe a V-Brake is the only solution?
Thanks in advance.
Steve
I built my son a no holds barred serious BMX bike. But these "top of the line" Odysey Evolver U-brakes don't stop the thing.
Stock 2BY4 pads just slide on the chromed Araya RBJ1 rim. The levers are Odysee Modulevers with brand new Odysey cables & Gyro3.
I've heard they're even worse on anodized black aluminum rims. I can't imagind how they could be worse than this. I have sanded the pads. Aligned them with & without toe. Cleaned the rim with Simple Green (helped for 30 seconds). I even went so far as to swap out a pair of Siesta Hombres to see if that made a difference. Same pathetic results.
I've heard that kids are known to use ketchup on their brakes to make them work. This is absurd. Are these U-Brakes really this bad? If so, why are we using them?
The Evolvers are mounted under the seat stays which puts them out of harms way, but creates a serious mechanical disadvantage.
I'm wondering if there are any softer pads out there that might stick better. Koolstop Reds still around maybe?
If pads don't solve this issue maybe a V-Brake is the only solution?
Thanks in advance.
Steve
#2
Not-so-Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Norfolk, England
Posts: 805
Bikes: Orbea Enol roadie, Fly Micromachine BMX, Fort Track fixed
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
V brakes wont work; the mounts are in the wrong place, and they're not compatible with the levers or Gyro.
As for the pads, I use Kool Stop grey/salmon and they work fine (I have the same setup but with Araya Super 7x rims). Any Kool Stop pad should be fine, but grey/salmon are held in very high opinion.
As for the pads, I use Kool Stop grey/salmon and they work fine (I have the same setup but with Araya Super 7x rims). Any Kool Stop pad should be fine, but grey/salmon are held in very high opinion.
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Medway, MA
Posts: 2,727
Bikes: 2011 Lynskey Sportive, 1988 Cannondale SM400
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Kool Stops are the way to go- either the dual compound or all salmon should do the trick. You may also want to run some emery paper on the rims to break the surface of the chrome just slightly. The problem with chrome is that it is too smooth to build up an appreciable amount of friction against the pads. Good luck!!!
DEMON
DEMON
#4
Gravity Is Yer Friend
Join Date: May 2002
Location: "Over the Hill" and going down fast in the 805.
Posts: 2,961
Bikes: Scott Gambler, Scott Ransom, Kona Bear, Bianchi 928 Carbon/Chorus, C'Dale Rize4
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#5
NOT a weight weenie
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 1,762
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
On some of my customers bikes I have put red kool stops coupled with U brakes and they work well with chrome or black rims. You can also try roughing up the sidewall with light grit wet/dry sandpaper this works good as well.
#6
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: CT
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I'll try these suggestions. Starting with pads. I saw on the provided link (Thanks!) that "Phat Padd" is the only one specifically reommended for use on 990 style U-brakes. Is this the one we're after? In salmon.
Thanks for the help!
Thanks for the help!
#7
Sport Class Racer
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Northern Kentucky
Posts: 75
Bikes: 2003 Leader Bike LD 515 <----race bike, 1991 Cannondale SR 400, Haro Escape 8.3(dead, will revive to ride urban on),2003 Ironhorse Hollowpoint Expert, Random Frames and BMX stuff
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
U could get disc brakes and a conversion kit. Check this site out. They are working on a bmx bike with disc brakes now. CHECK IT OUT https://www.therapycomponents.com/BRAKETHERAPY.htm