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Old 07-22-08, 08:08 PM   #1
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Bike rebuild questions

I am planning to embark on putting a whole new gruppo on my Simoncini. Currently it has campy veloce 9 spd triple with about 12 years on it. I have a lot of generic tools and have turned many a wrench - but not too much on a bike. Here are my questions:
1) I know I will need an Italian style BB/Crank set - do both sides of the BB lock rings turn counter clockwise to loosen on the Italian style?
2) Any recommendation for a park tool to loosen the lock rings and will I need the same tool for a 2008/9 chorus carbon crankset?
3) I can't remember when (or even if) the BB was out of this bike last - how much torque can I put on it before I give up and consider it siezed? I plan to try this before ordering the new components as I think this is the highest risk item in the rebuild.
4) Any recomendations on a Park crank puller - will I be able to use it on the new set?
5) The front derailier has a braze on - is this a one size fits all when I order the gruppo or are there different sizes?
6) On this bike one of the cables runs through the top tube - is there any special items needed for this cable.
7) I think the only two new tools I will need are the BB lock ring wrench and the crank puller - any other suggestions, I have a full set of allen wrenches and other wrenches - any suggestions?

Any words of wisdom before I venture down this path are welcome.
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Old 07-23-08, 09:06 AM   #2
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???

2008/9 campy cranksets use ultra torque, the bb u have right now wont work at all.

Get a regular crank puller at the store and take those cranks out, nothing out of this world.

Regarding BB, probably you will get problems with the fixed cup, the driver side. If i was you I would take the bike to an lsb to take the crankset out. All my life i have gotten problems with the darn fixed cup. Ifthey want 100 bucks or 80 for that job tell them NO. With the right tools take the whole thing appart wont take more than 10 minutes if you are good at it.

As I said before, new campy use external cups. The shimano external cups tool works perfect, regarding torque? no clue i dont have a torque tool. Those new cranks are set up in 5 minutes, just follow the instructions. The 1st time is hard but after that is peace of cake.

Top tube cables? where that cable goes to? U shouldnt need any tool besids a cable cutter maybe??

The only tool u need is the shimano external cup remover wrench that can be found in performance or any other place.

good luck.
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Thanks,

The cable is for the rear brake - it passes on the inside of the top tube not on the outside.
I have located a tool to borrow to loosen the BB so I won't have to buy any extra tools.


Any difference in chain tools - I will need to but one that will work for the narrow 9/10 speed chains?
Are they all the same as well?
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