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Old 07-31-08, 08:56 PM   #1
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Complicated question

My back rim is wobbling, but the bike shop said my spokes are SOOOO tight that they cant be tightened anymore. and not to worry, the rim will hold fine, till just be annoying, but I do DJ/park riding.

Is this true?
And why cant they just loosen all the spokes and start from scratch
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Old 07-31-08, 09:24 PM   #2
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My back rim is wobbling, but the bike shop said my spokes are SOOOO tight that they cant be tightened anymore. and not to worry, the rim will hold fine, till just be annoying, but I do DJ/park riding.

Is this true?
And why cant they just loosen all the spokes and start from scratch
What's DJ ?

Anyway, get a second opinion from another shop - sounds like a bogus answer. Wheels can be trued by loosening & tightening ... it all depends on the specific problem. Maybe a few spokes are too tight and loosening will correct the problem
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Unless the spokes were too short to begin with.

Who's been doing your trueing? Fess up.
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Wheel manufacturers make wheels with a range of recommended spoke tension, not an absolute number, so if your wheel is true and the tension on your spokes is within that range you should be good. If your spokes are tightened beyond the maximum of the range you risk destroying your rim because they will develop cracks where the nipples are located. So, you should be able to true the wheel by backing off the spoke tension and retensioning so that the wheel is within the range of spoke tension. You just need something to measure spoke tension and the numbers from the manufacturers website.

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What's DJ ?

Anyway, get a second opinion from another shop - sounds like a bogus answer. Wheels can be trued by loosening & tightening ... it all depends on the specific problem. Maybe a few spokes are too tight and loosening will correct the problem
DJ is probably Dirt Jumping. The shop probably does not wish to have too much contact with a wheel that has a very limited remaining service life, on the you touch it--you own it theory.
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You could loosen spokes on the side of the wheel that the rim needs relaxing.
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Unless the spokes were too short to begin with.
No, but it's possible that the spokes are too long and there are not enough threads to tighten the nipples farther.
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If the rim is bent there is no way to properly true the wheel unless the rim is straightened or replaced.

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You could loosen spokes on the side of the wheel that the rim needs relaxing.
Maybe not.

I suspect that he's got a warped rim. If that's the case the spokes on one side might have virtually no tension at all yet still require excessive tension on the other side to pull the rim straight. That's pretty common.

If I'm right, he neds a new rim.
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No, but it's possible that the spokes are too long and there are not enough threads to tighten the nipples farther.
No, he said already TOO RIGHT, unless, as said , DJ'ing.
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I suspect that he's got a warped rim. If that's the case the spokes on one side might have virtually no tension at all yet still require excessive tension on the other side to pull the rim straight. That's pretty common.

If I'm right, he neds a new rim.
My guess is that the shop figured that out a while ago and they no longer care to f*** with it until such time as the OP is ready to get a new wheel. They could have explained it better, and perhaps they did. Getting information through a DJer filter usually leaves something behind.
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No, he said already TOO RIGHT, unless, as said , DJ'ing.
I think you mean TOO TIGHT, and you've got a point there. I misunderstood the meaning of your earlier posting, sorry.
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