Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-06-08, 07:15 AM   #1
cpsqlrwn
OldSchool
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Bikes:
Posts: 972
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11 Post(s)
Campy Shifter Compatibility Question

I have a nice set of 9 speed Centaur shifters that came off of a bike with a triple setup. Could these shifters be used in a double setup with a 9-speed Centaur/Chorus group? Any problems or issues I should be aware of? Thanks for any info!
cpsqlrwn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-08, 07:44 AM   #2
RockyMtnMerlin
Senior Member
 
RockyMtnMerlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Laramie Wyoming
Bikes: Merlin Extralight Topolino Wheels Campy Record
Posts: 2,970
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
If you go here http://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/doc/doccatid_3.jsp and open part A, there are compatibility charts at the end. However, they are rather complex. I googled a bit and did not find a simple compatibility chart. Perhaps someone can simplify the Campy one and it could be stickied as this question comes up quite a bit (or link to an existing chart).
__________________
RockyMtnMerlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-08, 10:10 AM   #3
HillRider 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '''96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '12 Surly Pacer, All are 3x8,9 or 10. It is hilly around here!
Posts: 29,121
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 180 Post(s)
AFAIK, all Campy Ergo brifters are both double and triple compatible.
HillRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-08, 10:20 AM   #4
grinderbob
coffee bean grinder
 
grinderbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 526
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
That's another thing Campy is better than Shimano: there is no distinction between double and triple.
Campy has gazillon shift points across the whole front derailleur shift range. Finer adjustment and more forgiving.
grinderbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-08, 10:27 AM   #5
HillRider 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '''96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '12 Surly Pacer, All are 3x8,9 or 10. It is hilly around here!
Posts: 29,121
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 180 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by grinderbob View Post
Campy has gazillon shift points across the whole front derailleur shift range. Finer adjustment and more forgiving.
Correct , right up until the '07 introduction of "QS" brifters. Centaur and below now have "Escapement" front shifting which is very much like Shimano, i.e. one click drops you from the big ring to the middle/inner and there are very limited trim positions.

They do retain the double/triple compatibility, which is odd since Campy doesn't have triple crank options for any of its better lines of components. They have, theoretically, specific triple groups but no one seems to carry them and Campy sure doesn't emphasize their avaiability.

BTW, Record and Chorus QS brifters do retain the "micro shifting" front shifting so if you want it, plan on buying the higher ($$$) line stuff.
HillRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-08, 10:31 AM   #6
grinderbob
coffee bean grinder
 
grinderbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 526
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
wow, good to know about the escapement shifting on some lower models. I thought Campy was using the same
rachting parts for left and right. It must be a cost saving and model differentiation thing.
grinderbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-08, 01:08 PM   #7
Al1943
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Oklahoma
Bikes: Trek 5500, Colnago C-50
Posts: 9,433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpsqlrwn View Post
I have a nice set of 9 speed Centaur shifters that came off of a bike with a triple setup. Could these shifters be used in a double setup with a 9-speed Centaur/Chorus group? Any problems or issues I should be aware of? Thanks for any info!
In 2001 Campy changed the cable pull on their shifters and throw ratio on the rear derailleur. The early 9-speed shifters and rear derailleurs are not cross-compatible with the later shifters or derailluers. I don't know how to tell the difference by looking. Check with Branford Bikes.

Edit: Here is some info from the official Campy website, see tables 30 and 31 http://www.campagnolo.com/repository...spares01-A.pdf

Al

Last edited by Al1943; 08-06-08 at 01:17 PM.
Al1943 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-08, 01:33 PM   #8
rmac
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 573
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HillRider View Post

They do retain the double/triple compatibility, which is odd since Campy doesn't have triple crank options for any of its better lines of components. They have, theoretically, specific triple groups but no one seems to carry them and Campy sure doesn't emphasize their avaiability.
Lick Bikes sells the Comp components which is Campy's higher triple line. I just bought a Comp front derailleur to go with a Record triple group. I'm changing bikes and the new one has a different seat tube diameter.
rmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-08, 04:45 PM   #9
HillRider 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '''96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '12 Surly Pacer, All are 3x8,9 or 10. It is hilly around here!
Posts: 29,121
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 180 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmac View Post
Lick Bikes sells the Comp components which is Campy's higher triple line. I just bought a Comp front derailleur to go with a Record triple group. I'm changing bikes and the new one has a different seat tube diameter.
Thanks for the lead. I'm familiar with Licktons but haven't looked at their Campy stuff recently.

I guess my point was that Campy used to offer triple cranks, long cage rear derailleurs and triple compatible front derailleurs through out their lines from Record on down. Then, in '07 they discontinued all of the triple options in the "name" groups and introduced a couple of triple-specific lines that they seem to treat as after-thoughts. What it think is ironic is that Record, Chorus, etc. brifters are triple compatible but they offer no triple components in these groups.
HillRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-08, 09:32 AM   #10
rmac
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 573
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HillRider View Post
I guess my point was that Campy used to offer triple cranks, long cage rear derailleurs and triple compatible front derailleurs through out their lines from Record on down. Then, in '07 they discontinued all of the triple options in the "name" groups and introduced a couple of triple-specific lines that they seem to treat as after-thoughts. What it think is ironic is that Record, Chorus, etc. brifters are triple compatible but they offer no triple components in these groups.
I agree. They advertise the Comp group as being similar to Chorus/Record but I don't think the finish compares and they lack the CF parts. The medium cage Chorus/Record rear derailleurs work with triples and are still available.

I didn't really like putting on the Comp front derailleur with the Record group.
rmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:48 AM.