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Old 08-19-08, 05:28 PM   #1
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Frame Pump Choices

I have a mini pump which I am very unhappy with. Would like to go back to a standard sized frame pump. The last one I bought was 18 years ago and an old zefal. Any new or better versions. Blackburn vs Zefal vs Topeka. Which seems to be strongest and best.
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Old 08-19-08, 05:45 PM   #2
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A frame-fit pump would look good on a classic steel, but not on a modern oversize tube bike.
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Old 08-19-08, 05:57 PM   #3
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Really not so interested so much in the looks as the function, but thanks for the response.
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Old 08-19-08, 06:14 PM   #4
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Really not so interested so much in the looks as the function, but thanks for the response.
I see.

Due to the casual usage of such an item, I'd say the more convinient physical size trumps the smaller air volume per push of a smaller pump.

U do have an honest-to-God shop pump at home for the b4r ride replenishment right.
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Well, now back to the question.

My only experience is with Blackburn frame pumps. They work well enough for what they are meant to do. I definitely wouldn't want it as my only pump, but for fixing a flat in the middle of no where they get the job done.
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I have a mini pump which I am very unhappy with. Would like to go back to a standard sized frame pump. The last one I bought was 18 years ago and an old zefal. Any new or better versions. Blackburn vs Zefal vs Topeka. Which seems to be strongest and best.

The best frame pump to come out in years is the Topeak Road Morph. It's praises have been sung by many, and often, on this forum. I liked my first one so much I now have two, so I don't have to move it from bike to bike. If you have never used one, get to a shop and try one out.
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Topeak Morph series - mine works great, every other day!
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Frame pumps are for noobs. If you're only interested in function then the only pump you'll ever need is a topeak road morph with gauage.
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CO2 and a mini pump for emergencies. Why carry around a heavy, clunky frame pump when you will only use it on rare occasion?
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Old 08-19-08, 07:42 PM   #10
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CO2 and a mini pump for emergencies. Why carry around a heavy, clunky frame pump when you will only use it on rare occasion?
Agree. If you ride with glasses and keep your eye open for glass and road debris, flats are very rare. I get maybe one or two every 5000 miles. A mini pump to find the hole and get the tube started and CO2 to fully inflate the tire is all that's needed.

Frame pumps look like something out of the 70's. They are big, heavy, and come off the frame at the worse possible times
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The best pump I have used is the Topeak Road Morph easy to use and I like that it has a hose, I also have a Innovation Secound Wind Road Mini Pump It can be uses as a CO2 or hand pump or both, it works great as well.
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The Zefal HPX works very well. It's not heavy at all, and it comes off the frame only when you want it to. Plus it looks like something out of the '70s.
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To hell with looks. For the higher pressure road tires I want as long a pump as I can fit in the darn frame. I've got a couple of Zefal HPX's that I treasure and recently had to go with a Planet Bike version of the same sort of spring expanding pump since the place doesn't handle the Zefals at the moment. But at least the PB pump seems like a good alternative. Had to pump up a tire due to a slow leak and it got it back up to around 100 psi in short order.

I use mini pumps on my off road bikes only because the longer frame pumps won't fit the oddball frames and I also want to lash them in place in the clip with the velcro strap.

The longer pumps provide more volume when the pressure is low and more volume at pressure when you're up near the end. A win-win compared to the shorties.
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I just broke my frame-fit Silca. I guess smacking all those dogs with it back in the '80s wasn't such a good idea after all.
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I have a road morph, & an HPX.
They both get the job done, I like the road morph for the reasonably accurate gauge (results may vary), & it's mounting system which is not prone to getting bumped off as the HPX did before I strapped it down. Basically it's a bit easier for me to remove if needed.
I've seen the Platnet Bike frame pumps & debate one for the back of my kogswell, but haven't found sufficient need to change yet.
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I have a couple of zefal hpx which are not easy to find these days. Planet Bike roadie frame pump from AE Bike for $17 is a good one too. Nashbar formerly sold the same exact pump under their house brand for about $12. I don't get a lot of flats but have used all 3 of these pumps enough times to be confident they will work fine when needed. I use 700-35 tires that have pretty large volume and run at 70-75 psi. It takes me takes me about two strokes per psi to fully inflate my tires using either the Planet Bike roadie, nashbar house brand or zefal hpx. The planet bike roadie has a good handle with soft kraton rubber ends that won't wear the paint off the frame like one end of the zefal does.
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Sorry to hijack, but...

Are there any white frame pumps?
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Zefal SP-?

I use the 4 becuase it fits my frame.

pumps tyres up like nothing i have ever used before
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I use the Topeak MasterBlaster. Full-size and reliable.

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Try the Barbieri Carb One (if you are able to find it)
Amazing light and small (80g - 20cm) ande very effective.
Without too much effort you get 6 bar and with a little of patience 7-8.
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Topeak morph or mini morph. Best.pump.around.

really. Do a search. But by a water bottle side holder from performance as their holder is ugly.
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I use the Topeak MasterBlaster. Full-size and reliable.

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+1, just as good as my two HPXs.

Both types are also useful for discouraging chasing dogs (try that with a mini pump).
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