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    Spoke length: Mavic Reflex tubular on Record hub

    A spoke just snapped on my wheel. The spare spokes I have for an Open Pro clincher rim on a Centaur hub measure 295 mm, but they are too short for my Reflex-Record wheel: the spoke enters the nipple but the thread does not gain purchase.

    I'm guessing that up to 15 years or so ago these box-like tubular rims like Mavic Reflexes laced to Record hubs were fairly standard gear. But unless I'm not understanding the concept correctly (not in the least unlikely), I can't seem to find the spokes I need for this wheel. I looked on the Branford site, but the longest they have are 295 mm.

    What gives?

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    That combination could take up to a 298mm spoke assuming its a 36 hole 3 cross. An open pro clincher rim could take a spoke as short as 291.
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    I knew I'd left something out. It's a 32-hole hub-rim, and the spokes cross two spokes ("2-cross"?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rousseau View Post
    I knew I'd left something out. It's a 32-hole hub-rim, and the spokes cross two spokes ("2-cross"?).
    Mavic Reflex tubulars with Campy hubs, 32hole and 2X should be a 292 spoke. 2X is very odd for a rear wheel.

    295's should be too long, not too short.
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    It's probably 3x. Look at the wheel again, do the spokes just barely pass over another spoke right at the base of the hub and two clearly later? Then 3x.

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    Took my wheel to a great shop that's open on Sundays, and sure enough, it's a 3x pattern, not 2x. And it turns out that 298 mm spokes are indeed what are required for Record-Reflex wheels using a 3x pattern.

    I'm just learning as I go, here. I bought a spoke wrench and, after putting in the new spoke, actually managed to true my wheel. Well chuffed about that, I am!

    Thanks for the responses!

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