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Old 10-23-08, 12:35 PM   #1
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New Bike came with no kickstand...?

Hey all, Im a college kid and ordered up a Mongoose crossway 450. It came and I had to put it together which went well and all, but there was no kickstand, nor any place to put one it seems... is there some special way to install a kickstand on this bike or is it a simple snap on thing, or what?

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Old 10-23-08, 12:45 PM   #2
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Greenfield-ATB--...12104005r36472

Something like that may work for you.
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Go to any bike shop and buy a kickstand. Should be $10 or less. Then follow these instructions.
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-...-your-bicycle/
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The problem with kickstands is that, when you use them, you're locking your bike to nothing. If you're in a low-theft area, that's OK, but otherwise, you might consider that low-end bikes get stolen a lot.
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A further problem with kickstands is that they're useless for more serious cyclists. Just lean the bike up or put it in a stand...no use for a kickstand. Last kickstand I wanted was when I was 14. Haven't missed them in the intervening 38 years...
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A further problem with kickstands is that they're useless for more serious cyclists. Just lean the bike up or put it in a stand...no use for a kickstand. Last kickstand I wanted was when I was 14. Haven't missed them in the intervening 38 years...
Thanks, I didn't know I was not a "serious" cyclist, it's always good to know these things. Or am I only serious sometimes, since two of my bikes have kickstands and the other six do not?

Don't mind the above posters who put down kickstands. If you want a kickstand, go ahead and put one on. They can be very beneficial. My touring/grocery bike has a kickstand. It comes in very handy when loading up the panniers with my groceries. My bad weather/dog walker bike also has a kickstand. It also comes in handy when walking the dog. At times, there is nothing to lean the bike on, but I must get off to clean up after she has done her business.
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As you can see, having/wanting a kickstand will tarnish your image in the eyes of the "cool" cyclists. Notwithstanding that, it won't hurt to try and get by without a kickstand for a few days, and then decide which way works best for you.
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I am not a serious cyclist. I enjoy putting my kickstand down without leaning it against something. Someday, I hope to become a serious cyclist and remove my kickstand. Maybe then I'll start riding less than everyday.
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need a kick stand or not, you would be wise to chain or cable lock it to something that want move or you will become a walker not a rider
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The problem with kickstands is that, when you use them, you're locking your bike to nothing. If you're in a low-theft area, that's OK, but otherwise, you might consider that low-end bikes get stolen a lot.
Sorry, I'm missing something here. How does a kickstand inhibit ones ability to properly lock up a bike?

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A further problem with kickstands is that they're useless for more serious cyclists. Just lean the bike up or put it in a stand...no use for a kickstand. Last kickstand I wanted was when I was 14. Haven't missed them in the intervening 38 years...
Is there a document that defines serious cyclist? I may only have amateur ranking but there are plenty of opportunities where I'd have liked a kickstand on the touring bike(s).
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Even my bike like the kickstand. No more laying in the mud or sand, or up against rough trees or bricks. It smiled as I was tightening the bolt!

But, then again, I'm not serious. I only ride 30 - 50 miles every day, and only try to use it for everything I can.

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I hear kickstands that mount near the rear of then chainstay can bend the frame over time. Immagine the force you would exert on the frame at this one point if you tried to hold the bike upright by the chainstay.
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The problem with kickstands is that, when you use them, you're locking your bike to nothing. If you're in a low-theft area, that's OK, but otherwise, you might consider that low-end bikes get stolen a lot.
Huh? I use my kickstand all the time, even when I'm locking it to things. Just because someone us using a kickstand doesn't mean they're not locking it to something solid? Your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
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Huh? I use my kickstand all the time, even when I'm locking it to things. Just because someone us using a kickstand doesn't mean they're not locking it to something solid? Your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
Minumum lock size = most secure. Thus percludes having your bike in a position where the kickstand would be of any use whatsoever. I have never once been out riding and went, gee I wish I had a kickstand now.
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No clue what your bike is, but after you put on that kickstand, try not to go airborne. If the kick stand flops out, you could injure yourself. I've seen it happen and I find it pretty funny.
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Is there a document that defines serious cyclist? I may only have amateur ranking but there are plenty of opportunities where I'd have liked a kickstand on the touring bike(s).
It's just a loose term, used to describe someone who rides alot, or rides fast, or has alot of bikes, or has one really expensive bike....take your pick.

Let's look at myself and another fellow cyclist, Bob (his name really is Bob).

I'm 39, fit, thin, own 4 bikes (soon to be 5), ride fast, ride often (4000km/year), wear the spandex and the like. None of my bikes have a kickstand.

Bob is 56, pudgy around the middle, owns 1 bike (with a kickstand), rides alot, rides slow, but his rides are no more than 40km and he even has started his own cycling club - www.nsramblers.ca. Bob is also well known in the cycling circles around here and is a VP of Bicycle Nova Scotia. Well, Bobby boy has over 6000km so far this year. Is he a 'serious' cyclist? In my eyes, yes. He said to me one time, "I ride to eat...that's why I ride."

I think that 'serious' is best used to describe someone who lives, eats and breathes cycling. Myself and Bob are 'serious' cyclists.

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Being a cycling safety instructor (CAN-BIKE), I tell students that the one thing that typically falls off of a bike are kickstands, so remove them. But that typically applies to 'non-serious' cyclists. That being said, if you are diligent about making sure your bike is in proper working order and the bolts, nuts, screws are properly tightened, then by all means, if you want one and find it convenient, use a kickstand.

If you don't want a kickstand (like me), then by all means, don't put one on your bike.

Do I think less of Bob because he has a kickstand? No. I hold Bob in high regard.

Do I poke fun at Bob because he has a kickstand? Well...I poke fun at him, but not because he has a kickstand. Hmmm, but maybe I'll start....
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LOL, I like my bike to stand up when I let go of it, that's why I use a kickstand.
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Huh? I use my kickstand all the time, even when I'm locking it to things. Just because someone us using a kickstand doesn't mean they're not locking it to something solid? Your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
Irrational fear of things that make a bike useful. It's a common disease among people who think they're really Lance Armstrong. Kickstands, fenders, racks, lights, reflectors, baskets, wheels with more than 4 spokes all make a bike an actual useful transportation device, so the racer wannabes recoil in horror. See, they know they're suddenly going to have to compete in a bike race, so they can't ride a bike that isn't ready for it. Yeah, it's completely nuts, and they'll deny it, and rationalize, but that's the explanation.
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Minumum lock size = most secure. Thus percludes having your bike in a position where the kickstand would be of any use whatsoever. I have never once been out riding and went, gee I wish I had a kickstand now.
Not everyone lives in constant fear of having their bike stolen. I often ride to the store and just leave it upright against the guard rail in the lot or leaning against the tree outside the library.

Occasionally I might use my ulock if I'm going to leave it unattended for a couple hours, but rarely do I bother locking it to something.



A kickstand would make loading the XO-3 so much easier.
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Not everyone lives in constant fear of having their bike stolen. I often ride to the store and just leave it upright against the guard rail in the lot or leaning against the tree outside the library.

Occasionally I might use my ulock if I'm going to leave it unattended for a couple hours, but rarely do I bother locking it to something.


I dont live in constant, hand wringing fear either, but you sound like someone who has never had a bike stolen. All it takes is just one moment for some low life punk to hop on your bike and steal your pride and joy just as soon as you enter the library, grocery store, or whatever. It only takes a few moments and "bam"....its gone. You dont want that to happen no more than I do, so do yourself a favor and start locking up your bike.

I only have two bikes, but both of them are good ones. One of them never leaves my sight, but the other one, the one I ride to town to get things, always gets locked up no matter what.

But to get back on topic as to kick stands,.....and to the OP, just go out and buy you a kick stand. They're cheap and very convenient. Dont worry about what people on this board think about it,....you worry about what you think about it.
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I started using a kickstand on my commuting bike about a year ago. I really like it.

- My bike can "stand" in the bike rack at work without the frame touching the metal bike rack. Prevents paint chips.
- Makes it much more convenient to load the bike in the morning when I'm getting my gear together, putting air in the tires, putting the lights together.
- Sometimes I stop for groceries on the way home; easy to just leave the bike on the sidewalk outside the store while I go in for a minute.
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I dont live in constant, hand wringing fear either, but you sound like someone who has never had a bike stolen. All it takes is just one moment for some low life punk to hop on your bike and steal your pride and joy just as soon as you enter the library, grocery store, or whatever. It only takes a few moments and "bam"....its gone. You dont want that to happen no more than I do, so do yourself a favor and start locking up your bike.

I only have two bikes, but both of them are good ones. One of them never leaves my sight, but the other one, the one I ride to town to get things, always gets locked up no matter what.

But to get back on topic as to kick stands,.....and to the OP, just go out and buy you a kick stand. They're cheap and very convenient. Dont worry about what people on this board think about it,....you worry about what you think about it.
I don't think the OP expressed any uncool kickstand phobias-it was brought up after his last post.

But for those wishing to be cool closet kickstand users - there is a removable kickstand:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Greenfield-Easy-...1%7C240%3A1318

You can stand your bike up by placing this kickstand below, but then remove it and go incognito (sorta like 007) around the cool kickstandless crowd and let them think your are a cool Lance kickstandless rider by not appearing to burden your bike down with the weight of a kickstand.
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I started using a kickstand on my commuting bike about a year ago. I really like it.

- My bike can "stand" in the bike rack at work without the frame touching the metal bike rack. Prevents paint chips.
- Makes it much more convenient to load the bike in the morning when I'm getting my gear together, putting air in the tires, putting the lights together.
- Sometimes I stop for groceries on the way home; easy to just leave the bike on the sidewalk outside the store while I go in for a minute.
Cool Kickstandless riders take note-be sure to add some paint chips to bike else people might think you are actually an uncooth kickstand user.

My observations also include noticing my seats on my kickstandless bike gets scrape wear that my kickstand bikes do not-so scratch that saddle to keee....eeeep up impressions.

Those kickstandless riders not concerned with keeping up their cool impressions can ignore this post.
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I'm not a serious rider but I use a seat on my bike as well just seams like the thing I want to do, so if you want a kick stand go get one and carry the stigma of a non-serious rider with a non-chipped paint, non-scratched saddle rider rookie.
The only point I was trying to make is it's your bike, fix it up the way you want it to be for your
convince not some one else. Who cares what other people think! As long as it does not threaten your safety go for it.
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