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Old 11-06-08, 03:30 PM   #1
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Repair Stands

I am planning to but a stand next week and am undecided between the park PRS-9 and PRS-10. There is little difference in price and I know there is a difference in the clamping system, but is the difference worth it. If anyone has input about these stands or perhaps another suggestion please let me know.
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Old 11-06-08, 04:07 PM   #2
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Just my honest opinion(s)

I looked at the PCS 9 and PCS 10 and I can't see anything that would justify the $50 increase in price that the PCS 10 has over the 9. (westernbikeworks has the PCS 9 for $99 and the PCS 10 for $144).

Have you looked at the Ultimate repair stands? I have the ultimate pro elite. I got it a few years ago and is holding up remarkably well. There are other ultimates priced below the pro elite which are nice as well. I think Performance markets a spin doctor repair stand that is similar to the Ultimate Pro stand but I don't recall one that matches the pro elite model.

There are lots of choices out there in the repair stand market. If you have a shop nearby that has them on display or can otherwise play around with some different models, then I would highly recommend you play around with putting a bike in and taking it out of the different models and see which one works best for you.

If you are on a really tight budget then I recommend the old old old school method of tying a loop of rope from the rafters and suspending the bike by the seat. I worked on many-a-bike this way. it works well for most adjustments and overhauls but it helps to have an extra person to hold the bike from swinging when heavy wrenching like installing bottom brackets and cranks.

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I just bought a PCS-10 less than 2 months ago. I was debating between the 10 and the 9 (or other screw-type clamps). I got the 10 specifically because of the quick release. Now, I can't imagine not having it. When you are holding your bike with one hand, you want to be able to clamp it as quickly and easily as possible. With a light road bike, it's not as critical. But when I work on my super-heavy hybrid, I wouldn't want to hold that thing up for a long time with one hand.

Here's how I see it: The easier it is to use, the more I'll use it for lubing, cleaning, etc. If it's a pain, I won't want to use it as much.

Here's are good prices for it:
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...air+Stand.aspx
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...slisearch=true
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Old 11-06-08, 05:18 PM   #4
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Ditto^^^. The clamp alone is grounds to spring for the PCS-10. Add to that it's greater stability - it just feels solid and right - and you've got a winner. Mine lives in shop-area and is in use just about daily on all those little projects I'd been meaning to get to.
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I am planning to but a stand next week and am undecided between the park PRS-9 and PRS-10. There is little difference in price and I know there is a difference in the clamping system, but is the difference worth it. If anyone has input about these stands or perhaps another suggestion please let me know.
Unless you are a child or a small woman the PRS-9 is a better value.
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Old 11-06-08, 06:53 PM   #6
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I found the prs-9 for $85 and the prs-10 for $132. The price difference is about the same, but at the same time I don't see the clamp mechanism making that much difference in price. Unfortunately No one around my area has one in stock that i can look at in person. The stance of the prs-10 looked a little different in picture from the 9 also, like the bike would be a little further away from the tube on the stand. I also have looked at the Ultimate stands, but thaey are a little too pricey for my budget.
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I found the prs-9 for $85 and the prs-10 for $132. The price difference is about the same, but at the same time I don't see the clamp mechanism making that much difference in price. Unfortunately No one around my area has one in stock that i can look at in person. The stance of the prs-10 looked a little different in picture from the 9 also, like the bike would be a little further away from the tube on the stand. I also have looked at the Ultimate stands, but thaey are a little too pricey for my budget.
I have an older clamping model and I really like it. However, the PRS-9 is a little more versatile and it is also cheaper.
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The stance of the prs-10 looked a little different in picture from the 9 also, like the bike would be a little further away from the tube on the stand.
Yes - the PCS-10 does lean out and forward. This is called 'triangulation.' This adds to the stability of the stand so it doesn't dance around as much when you're applying torque somewhere. It also has an attachment on the main post for affixing Park Tool accessories like tables for putting tools, lube, etc on. You can also buy this thing separately for the PCS-9.
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If you are not in a big rush, Park stands show up routinely on Craigs List. I also have seen postings/fliers at local bike shops. You can get a better stand, for less $$ that way.

As far as clamping, I like the quick clamp style, rather than the screw down style.

I also have a tool tray, but I would not recommend it as it tends to get in the way.
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I have the clamping style, can not imagine not having the ease of how quick it is to use. The one caveat is tubing size of the bike. My bikes are steel with one bike having an aluminum frame (pos). The aluminum one has relative small diameter tubing compared to other aluminum frames but it is still harder to set the clamp. Larger tubing sizes probably wouldn't work. My stand is older...maybe the newer clamps can handle larger tubes?
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Of course, you don't want to use either of those stands to clamp a carbon fiber frame. Be sure to use a stand like the PRS-20 or PRS-21.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure there are lots of guys out there clamping their carbon frames in the middle which is against the manufacturer recommendations. More power to you. Those of who don't want to risk frame damage don't clamp.
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I have one steel bmx bike and an aluminum mountain bike right now with plans to add an aluminum road bike to the stable soon. I think I am going to lean toward the prs10, not so much for the clamp, but for the added stability mentioned above. I looked at some more pictures and the prs-9 is a lot more straight than the prs-10 which would obviously make it easier to tip over. FYI if any of you other ares looking tree fort bikes has killer pricing on anything made by Park and free shipping over $100. I don't know if it is against the rules to plug a store that is not a sponsor, but hey money is tight right now and every penny counts.
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The current PCS-10 handles tubing up to 3 inches. Regards clamping aluminum, it requires common-sense be used. Aluminum tubing tends to be bigger than the steel, so never assume and just clamp-down. You can squash a bike with these regardless of the material if care isn't taken. Carbon 10X over: CAUTION!
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The current PCS-10 handles tubing up to 3 inches. Regards clamping aluminum, it requires common-sense be used. Aluminum tubing tends to be bigger than the steel, so never assume and just clamp-down. You can squash a bike with these regardless of the material if care isn't taken. Carbon 10X over: CAUTION!
That's why I turn the clamping mechanism sideways and clamp the seat post. I don't want to crush my carbon top tube. I think many people do the same.

md250r, that tree fort is a pretty good site.
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I've done business with Tree Fort Bikes. Never a problem, always arrives when they say it will.

Yes - the seatpost is the best place to clamp a bike. But for those times you can't - CAUTION.
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I just got the Ultimate Sport-Mechanic stand ($145 in Canada from http://www.mec.ca/ ) and it's really sturdy and nicely made. I figured saving $30 - $40 to get something cheaper would be wiped out if it slipped or fell over. This company makes professional music and instrument stands.

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I surely do like my Ultimate Pro Elite.

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I am very happy with my PCS-10.
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