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Old 12-08-08, 04:24 PM
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Compact Double Q

Looking at the various Shimano groupsets available, a compact double doesn't appear to be one of the options. Can you DIY by replacing the chainrings with a 50 and a 34, or do you need to buy a dedicated crank assembly? And if so, does Shimano make one? And if you can DIY, will a 34 work with the stock 52?
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Originally Posted by Daytrip
Looking at the various Shimano groupsets available, a compact double doesn't appear to be one of the options. Can you DIY by replacing the chainrings with a 50 and a 34, or do you need to buy a dedicated crank assembly? And if so, does Shimano make one? And if you can DIY, will a 34 work with the stock 52?
Shimanos compacts are outside the groups.

You need a new crank... "compact" cranks have 110mm BCD while "normal" Shimano cranks are 130mm.
A 38t ring is the smallest that will fit on 130mm BCD.

You could make a chainset with a 34t small and 52t large but it will shift poorly. 50/34 and 52/36 are about as far apart as you can go and still have decent shifting.
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Cool. If I get the regular double and decide to switch to the compact later (on the Ultegra group) are there any other modifications or changes needed?
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Originally Posted by Daytrip
Cool. If I get the regular double and decide to switch to the compact later (on the Ultegra group) are there any other modifications or changes needed?
You may need to shorten the chain and lower the front derailer on the seat tube.
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Originally Posted by ericm979
Shimanos compacts are outside the groups.

You need a new crank... "compact" cranks have 110mm BCD while "normal" Shimano cranks are 130mm.
A 38t ring is the smallest that will fit on 130mm BCD.

You could make a chainset with a 34t small and 52t large but it will shift poorly. 50/34 and 52/36 are about as far apart as you can go and still have decent shifting.
I run a 52 34, with a mountain cassette (12-34)in the back I have a nice range. True there are pretty big jumps, but I'd rather have all the gears I need than have a bunch of gears I don't need in nice steps.

Shifting up front isn't that great, but you don't have to shift often. On a ride, the spread is far enough apart that I only shift the front if I know there are major climbs coming up. On all but the steepest terrain, the outer ring works. I might shift 2 or 4 times per ride.
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