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Old 01-16-09, 04:47 PM   #1
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ultegra calipers + otherwise centaur gruppo = good idea?

Hi, I'm about halfway through piecing together a 10spd/double Centaur gruppo to put on a "retro roadie" project and I'm considering whether it would be a better idea to pick up a pair of Ultegra calipers or just stick with Centaur calipers. The reason why I'm tempted to mix-n-match the Ultegra calipers in with the otherwise Centaur gruppo is because I really like the Shimano QR design.

Advice? Is there a performance differential that's worth weighing? I've searched and haven't found a head to head comparison strictly limited to the brake calipers themselves. Thanks!
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If you prefer the Ultegra's then I see no reason not to use them.....
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Keep in mind, if you're going with the Centaur brake levers/shifters, the brake release is on the brake lever. So you don't need the QR on the brakes. As for performance, I've got an '09 Centaur group, and I find the brakes to be extremely good-
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The QR is on the lever for campagnolo. It allows the caliper to open up much more than the shimano design with the QR on the caliper.

the cable tension adjuster is better on the shimano however.
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I'm using Dura Ace calipers with Chorus Ergo brifters on one bike and Campy Record Ergo brifters with Ultegra calipers on another and they all work very well. Certainly as well as Shimano calipers with Shimano brifters or Campy calipers with Ergo brifters.

One advantage of this set up is that there are quick releases in both the levers and the calipers so the brakes can be opened far enough to clear any tire or any out of true wheel in an emergency.
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Retro = Campy all the way. Centaur calipers are cheaper than Ultegra.
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Retro = Campy all the way.
On some bikes, in particular, I agree wholeheartedly.

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I feel like you're overthinking this. you can get extra open-the-brakes-wide ability with Shimano, which is nice if you have pretty fat tires (e.g., 32mm) on your bike, so you can open the brakes wider with the releases on the calipers and built into the levers.
but otherwise, there's really no functional reason to pick one brake over the other. depends on how much you care about consistency in your gruppo, the particular look of the Ultegra calipers, etc. Whatever.
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I feel like you're overthinking this. you can get extra open-the-brakes-wide ability with Shimano, which is nice if you have pretty fat tires (e.g., 32mm) on your bike, so you can open the brakes wider with the releases on the calipers and built into the levers.
but otherwise, there's really no functional reason to pick one brake over the other. depends on how much you care about consistency in your gruppo, the particular look of the Ultegra calipers, etc. Whatever.
I agree. The only combination to avoid is Shimano brifters or brake levers with Campy calipers. Then you have no qr anywhere and only the narrowest tires will fit past the brake pads. Otherwise use what you like, they all work.
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