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Old 02-03-09, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jmess
I jumped on the Nashbar Ultegra 6603 deal ($127 shipped after discount code) to replace my crash damaged ultegra 9 speed triples. I was able to convert to 10 speed for a little less than $300. My rear derailer was bent so the replacement (ultegra 10 speed long cage) was $67 of the $300. The 6603 kit comes with new cables and housing which I put to good use also.

The 6603s shift great. My surviving 9 speed front derailer does't seem to downshift as well with the narrower 10 speed chain but I can live with it.
I did a similar upgrade with the Nashbar 6603 deal and had an issue with front shifting. The wider FD would occassionally leave the chain slipping between the front rings! I bought the Nashbar / Microshift 10spd FD and now it shifts like butter (front and back).
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Originally Posted by jmess
I jumped on the Nashbar Ultegra 6603 deal ($127 shipped after discount code) to replace my crash damaged ultegra 9 speed triples. I was able to convert to 10 speed for a little less than $300. My rear derailer was bent so the replacement (ultegra 10 speed long cage) was $67 of the $300. The 6603 kit comes with new cables and housing which I put to good use also.

The 6603s shift great. My surviving 9 speed front derailer does't seem to downshift as well with the narrower 10 speed chain but I can live with it.
^^I got that deal too, but got shafted with tax but no big deal. One of the best deals last x-mas.
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Originally Posted by HillRider
That really shouldn't make any difference. It's a myth that short cage derailleurs automatically shift better than their long cage peers. There is no reason they should since their jockey wheel to cog relationship is the same.
Yes and no. You're right that the cage length itself doesn't matter; but the "mountain-bike" design, where the derailer is designed to track along a cassette of up to 34t, does matter because it means that the jockey wheel is further away from the cogs as you get into the larger cogs.
But a road-marketed long-cage ("triple") rear derailer shouldn't shift worse than a road-marketed short-cage ("double") rear derailer.
The other difference, as mentioned, is that the old rear derailer is 8-speed. Or make that, "was designed for 8-speed." It tracks the same, but there's more play in the pulley wheel, basically not precise enough for crisp shifts on 9-speed system.

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So naturally, your first tactic would be to change the derailleur.
I already knew that the derailer was sub-optimal, for reasons explained above, and I'd bought the new derailer already before I wondered if the cable housing was a problem. I didn't think it was, but the housing was used (I think) when I put it onto the bike.
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Shimano Ultegra 10 Spd Triple ST-6603 STI Shifters: $149.99

Nashbar's latest catalogue.

EDIT: I see someone beat me to this - I'll leave it for the stragglers....

9 spd. Forever!
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Don't the Nashbar (Microtech) brifters have 2 little handles for the shifting and not the actual brake lever itself?
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Originally Posted by timcupery
Yes and no. You're right that the cage length itself doesn't matter; but the "mountain-bike" design, where the derailer is designed to track along a cassette of up to 34t, does matter because it means that the jockey wheel is further away from the cogs as you get into the larger cogs.
But a road-marketed long-cage ("triple") rear derailer shouldn't shift worse than a road-marketed short-cage ("double") rear derailer.
Right, which is why I was careful to say; ".....than their long cage peers...". Meaning I was comparing road derailleurs with road derailleurs.
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Originally Posted by HillRider
Right, which is why I was careful to say; ".....than their long cage peers...". Meaning I was comparing road derailleurs with road derailleurs.
Ah, I missed that, sorry. You're dead on, as usual.
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Originally Posted by triplebutted
Don't the Nashbar (Microtech) brifters have 2 little handles for the shifting and not the actual brake lever itself?
You're correct. See the pic on this page. There are two paddles behind the brake lever, rather than the conventional setup with one. One lever shifts up, one down. It seemed like a fine setup to me when I played with it on the display stand. It should also prevent accidental braking when trying to shift, which is what I occasionally did a few years ago during the first 1000 kms after going from bar-end shifters to brifters.
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Originally Posted by Chris_W
There are two paddles behind the brake lever, rather than the conventional setup with one. One lever shifts up, one down. It seemed like a fine setup to me when I played with it on the display stand. It should also prevent accidental braking when trying to shift, which is what I occasionally did a few years ago during the first 1000 kms after going from bar-end shifters to brifters.
If by "conventional" you mean Shimano. Campagnolo and SRAM brifters also have brake levers that don't move side-to-side.
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Originally Posted by timcupery
If by "conventional" you mean Shimano. Campagnolo and SRAM brifters also have brake levers that don't move side-to-side.
No, by conventional I mean having only one paddle behind the brake lever (which is true for Shimano, Campagnolo, and SRAM), this seems pretty clear in my original post to me.
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Originally Posted by Crast
Nashbar themselves are selling ultegra brifters for $150; and I bought a pair over the holidays for something like $119. I know this pricing isn't common, but it'd take a lot for me to buy nashbar brand brifters if I can get Ultegra for near the same price, from the same site no less. It's like nashbar is hurting their own chances of selling microshift units by selling the ultegra 6603 for such a low price.
Jump forward to 07/26/2010 Ultegra triple brifters are $369 on sale, not $150. While Microshift are $129. The closeout on Ultegra brifters were a 1 time blip on the radar.
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
If Microshift wants my business, all they need to do is make their brifters *serviceable*, and make the parts available, and I will buy from them instead of Shimano.
At a $100 a pair on sale that's not likely. Campy has dumped almost their entire line of user serviceable shifters.
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