Adjusting my front derailer
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Adjusting my front derailer
This years winter maintenance involved replacing the rear derailer on my 99 Hardrock that wouldn't shift from 2 to 3 with a Deore derailer that shifts through all the gears. The chain is within spec, and the cassette was replaced last year. Front derailer is the shimano that came with the bike when I bought it. I was able to shift to the outer two chainrings and from all three chainrings before I replaced the rd, and now I can't get the front derailer to move far enough to clear all three chainrings. The h and l adjusters will change the location of the fd, but only to a point where continuing to turn the adjusting screw has no change in the location of the fd. I'm going to follow the Park Tool instructions on adjusting from the very begining tonight to try and get it to work again so I can resume riding, what other kinds of advice would any of you have to help me out here?
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Sounds like there might be just a "skosh" too much cable tension, if it won't go to the smallest ring.
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I see Kapaun thought you couldn't get to your granny ring. I get the opposite impression - that you can't hit the big ring. Either way, it's cable tension. If you can't shift down, your cable's too tight. If you can't shift up, it's too loose. I hate adjusting triple FDs. It's a lot of work, and I find that starting from scratch when something's bollocks-ed up is my only option. Follow Park's instructions from beginning to end and you're almost guaranteed to solve it.
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I see Kapaun thought you couldn't get to your granny ring. I get the opposite impression - that you can't hit the big ring. Either way, it's cable tension. If you can't shift down, your cable's too tight. If you can't shift up, it's too loose. I hate adjusting triple FDs. It's a lot of work, and I find that starting from scratch when something's bollocks-ed up is my only option. Follow Park's instructions from beginning to end and you're almost guaranteed to solve it.
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I see HO's impression was opposite of mine.
Either way, start from the basic adjustment.
In a nutshell, with the cable disconnected, the Low limit screw should keep the chain from coming off the smallest ring. Pull the "slop" out of the cable and tighten the clamp.
Either way, start from the basic adjustment.
In a nutshell, with the cable disconnected, the Low limit screw should keep the chain from coming off the smallest ring. Pull the "slop" out of the cable and tighten the clamp.
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After getting the Park Tools directions and lowering the fd enough to get it to hold a penny between the large chainring and leading edge of the fd like it shows in the picture I'm unable to get the low limit adjusted correctly. Even with the cable disconnected, I can't get it to move close enough towards the frame - and can't get the low limit adjuster to turn in as far as the high limit adjuster. There should be another full rotation of the low limit adjuster, and it looks like that should be enough adjustment to get the fd to move close enough to the frame to allow the chain to shift down to the small chainring. I've lubed the fd pivots and the low limit adjuster too - would removing the fd and cleaning it be the next step?
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After getting the Park Tools directions and lowering the fd enough to get it to hold a penny between the large chainring and leading edge of the fd like it shows in the picture I'm unable to get the low limit adjusted correctly. Even with the cable disconnected, I can't get it to move close enough towards the frame - and can't get the low limit adjuster to turn in as far as the high limit adjuster. There should be another full rotation of the low limit adjuster, and it looks like that should be enough adjustment to get the fd to move close enough to the frame to allow the chain to shift down to the small chainring. I've lubed the fd pivots and the low limit adjuster too - would removing the fd and cleaning it be the next step?
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I am a bit confused. Tightening the low limit screw generally moves the derailleur away from, not towards the frame. Sound like its too tight and needs to be backed off some. With cable unattached, loosen the screw until you have 1.5MM gap beteewn the chain and the inside of the derailleur cage.
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Try adjusting the High limit-screw. Adjust with the chain on the large chainring just so it able to be on this chainring without being pushed over to the middle chainring. In other words - it is almost rubbing on the outer-plate of the FD. Then go back to working on the Low limit-screw. Be sure to check cable-tension.
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So still confused. When you turn the screw clockwise (tightening) the derailluer moves toward the frame? This is unlike all of my various derailleurs, where tightening the screw pushes the the derailleur away from, not towards the frame. I'm not familiar with designs that work the opposite way.
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So still confused. When you turn the screw clockwise (tightening) the derailluer moves toward the frame? This is unlike all of my various derailleurs, where tightening the screw pushes the the derailleur away from, not towards the frame. I'm not familiar with designs that work the opposite way.
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So still confused. When you turn the screw clockwise (tightening) the derailluer moves toward the frame? This is unlike all of my various derailleurs, where tightening the screw pushes the the derailleur away from, not towards the frame. I'm not familiar with designs that work the opposite way.
+1 I'm with this guy. You might just be turning the screw in the wrong direction. If at all possible, look at the position of the screw against any stops, you want more gap, not less. Nothing beats visual verification.
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I needed to look at the bigger picture, and found that the fd was about as close to the frame as it could get - and the bottom bracket bearings were way too loose. Ad now onto the next problem.....
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And addressing the bottom bracket needs allowed it to be positioned so that the fd could be adjusted - now it will shift up and down without problem. Thanks for all the advice!