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Old 02-18-09, 07:59 PM   #1
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Previously enjoyed Record hub

Hey pals,

I have a low flange Campy Record front hub of indeterminate age laced to a tubular rim. I can tell by looking at the wheel that this isn't the first lacing this hub has endured, the flange deformations from previous incarnations are clearly visible. The hub itself spins smoother than all get out, however. Would this be a good candidate for relacing to a clincher rim? Any reason I should be squeamish about it's past? Just to be clear, the spokes are running the opposite direction of the flange indentations.

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Old 02-18-09, 09:27 PM   #2
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Hey pals,

I have a low flange Campy Record front hub of indeterminate age laced to a tubular rim. I can tell by looking at the wheel that this isn't the first lacing this hub has endured, the flange deformations from previous incarnations are clearly visible. The hub itself spins smoother than all get out, however. Would this be a good candidate for relacing to a clincher rim? Any reason I should be squeamish about it's past? Just to be clear, the spokes are running the opposite direction of the flange indentations.

Thanks everyone.
You can thank the previous wheelbuilder for their excellent skills. Anybody halfway competent would've laced the hub the same way as it was originally built. Meaning you should not not be able to see indentations in the hub on your current wheel.

Since your hub flanges haven't exploded yet you might as well roll the dice and relace it to a clincher rim, if you really - really liked those hubs. Those indentations aren't acting as stress risers because they think britney spears is hot.
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Old 02-19-09, 01:07 AM   #3
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Yep, that's exactly what I'm worried about. If it were me, I would have rebuilt it in the same direction. It wasn't though, and if I can take this obviously worthy hub and put it back into service at little cost without risking my life, I'm willing to overlook the aesthetic incongruities.

Anyone seen a hub blow apart from this kind of treatment? It is currently laced 36 hole, 3 cross; which is how it appears to have been laced before, but in the opposite orientation. I would relace it in the same manner, over one set of indentations or the other.
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Yep, that's exactly what I'm worried about. If it were me, I would have rebuilt it in the same direction. It wasn't though, and if I can take this obviously worthy hub and put it back into service at little cost without risking my life, I'm willing to overlook the aesthetic incongruities.

Anyone seen a hub blow apart from this kind of treatment? It is currently laced 36 hole, 3 cross; which is how it appears to have been laced before, but in the opposite orientation. I would relace it in the same manner, over one set of indentations or the other.
Yes, it can happen, but more often with large flange hubs than small flange. That said, it has never happened to me and I have relaced hubs multiple times over the 30+ years I have been building wheels.
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Well, the hub isn't going to fail catastrophically if it ever does. The most likely failure is that one or two spokes pull through the flange and the wheel goes badly out of true as if a spoke or two broke. You may have to get a ride home but it won't be in an ambulance.
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You can thank the previous wheelbuilder for their excellent skills. Anybody halfway competent would've laced the hub the same way as it was originally built. .
Shamefully, I admit that I have actually done this exact thing with a cmapy record low flange hub. It was one of the first wheels I built, and I was following direction for lacing in my Zinn book. When I got to the part after putting in the 3rd set of spokes (36H 3x) where instructions said rotate hub "counterclockwise", I discovered the indentations from previous lacing didn't line up. Too lazy to start all over, I finished the job. A few thousand miles later, the wheel works great, but I still wince whenever I look too closely atthe flange.
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Don't lose any sleep over it. You should be thankful that no matter how you lace that hub next the spokes are going to line up with an old set of indentations

There will be no problem.
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Thanks guys, I'll go ahead then. Better to see this hub on the road than hanging on a hook.
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