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    Recommendations on a bullet proof wide 1x5 or 1x6 setup?

    Basically I need gears but I want as few as possible. I prefer to keep a derailer setup as opposed to that of internal gear hubs.

    The situation I am looking at is (PLEASE correct me if I am wrong) most of the 1x5/1x6 groups are mostly for basic beginners on bikes. What I'm looking at is a 1x5/1x6 set up that is wide and would be very extremely durable. Weight is NOT a concern. Durability and as few gears as possible is.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    [edit] I think I would be also open to 1x7 solutions.
    Last edited by courtesi; 02-19-09 at 01:47 PM.

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    8 and 9 speed stuff is more mainstream and readily available but you can find seven speed cassettes as well. I would just look for a deal on and 8 speed chain/Cassette combo. Get an Acera derailleur and shifter - durable and cheap.
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    There is no real increase in complexity between a 1x5 and a 1x9 so, I would suggest looking at 1x8 or 1x9 simply so that you can use a cassette instead of a freewheel, and use more modern components.

    Even if you go with a 1x8, and ignore the smallest gear, you would probably end up with a higher level of component, and be happier with the result.

    To get the widest range of gears, just look for a cassette that has the largest and smallest cogs, and a rear derailleur that is rated to handle that range... then pick a chain ring to give you the gear range you need. This is personal taste, but I would choose based on what gives you a low enough gear for the riding you need to do. The highest gear will get you up to a certain speed, then if you are going down hill, you simply coast when you get above that speed.

    You can do a 1x7 using a cassette if 7 is really as high as you are willing to go by using a spacer, so that is as low as I would suggest. But, I really see no reason to go with 7 when 8 is just as easy to build, and it may be difficult to find a reasonable quality shifter for a 7 speed configuration.

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    For a durable wheel you need a freehub rather than a freewheel. To even the spoke tension minimise wheel dish by using a 7 sp freehub with spacers on the NDS.

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    My beater bike is a has a basic 6 speed freewheel although I'm running a triple front chainring as well. It works fine although there are a few things to consider. The only 6 speed freewheel I've seen are 14-28 and in some rare cases you may be able to find 14-24. That's it. Thats your choices. A hub for 6 speed will also be spaced for 126mm rather than 130mm. If you have 130mm rear spacing I would recommend looking at 8 speed. They were pretty durable.

    The dish on my 126mm spaced, 6 speed freewheel isn't perfect but its better than on my 130mm spaced, 9 speed road bike.

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    LX level cassette hub, with 3 cogs (34, 18, 12, hows that range?) and a lot of spacers. Build it to a rim with off centered spoke holes to minimize dish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by courtesi View Post
    Basically I need gears but I want as few as possible. I prefer to keep a derailer setup as opposed to that of internal gear hubs.

    The situation I am looking at is (PLEASE correct me if I am wrong) most of the 1x5/1x6 groups are mostly for basic beginners on bikes. What I'm looking at is a 1x5/1x6 set up that is wide and would be very extremely durable. Weight is NOT a concern. Durability and as few gears as possible is.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    [edit] I think I would be also open to 1x7 solutions.
    Well few gears as possible is 1x1. And 7 is a long way off from 1 I have to admit. A "durable" setup would mean either 1 x 1 or at the very least 1x7. That would mean cassette hub with fewest gear possible. Drivetrain last longer, replacement parts are cheap.
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    As others have said, the most durable multi-speed wheels are based around a cassette style hub, and almost all of those are now designed for 8, 9, or 10 speeds.

    However, you can disassemble most cassettes and use only the gears you want - buy a 12 - 34 and make yourself a four speed cassette 12 - 18 - 26 - 34, then fill the rest of the freehub body with spacers. This will probably work best with a friction shifter, too, as rear cogs have ramps and gates built into the teeth to allow indexed shifters to work, and switching cogs around messes up the ramp/gate pattern.

    This strategy could also allow you to keep your chainline as straight as possible if you space the cassette right, then you can put a single chainring on the front where a middle chainring would normally go. You can also put a nice big bash ring or chain guard in the big chainring spot.

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