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Old 05-11-09, 02:37 PM
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Nipples!

In my infinite ignorance, I bought a load of red spoke nipples off ebay yesterday thinking I'd jazz the wheels up a bit on my newly acquired race bike. Told my mate and he laughed - then told me wheel building is quite an art. I figured I'd just take the tyres off and change the nipples!

Is it as specialised a job as my friend has suggested? Or can I do it myself?

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Don't do it!!!!, get some monkeylights to dress it up or something like that. You'd be at least in for a full re-truing/dishing, and they might not even fit the spokes.
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Wheel building is a combination of mechanics, science and art. It's a lot more than just threading nipples onto spokes between a rim and a hub.

If you do what you propose, even assuming the nipples are the right threading and length, you will then have a major truing, tensioning and dishing job ahead of you. If you aren't sure what all of these terms mean and what they imply, don't even think of touching your wheels.
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Noted! That's the end of that idea then!

Anyone want to buy 50 red nipples? Size unknown!!
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Originally Posted by Claudencal
Noted! That's the end of that idea then!

Anyone want to buy 50 red nipples? Size unknown!!



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Changing the spoke nipples is not hard. Silly idea but to each their own. A truing stand will help; replace one nipple at a time and bring the wheel into lateral true. Simple for people with only one thumb per hand.
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Assuming they're aluminum, I wouldn't touch them. Aluminum nipples = bad.
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Changing the spoke nipples is not hard. Silly idea but to each their own. A truing stand will help; replace one nipple at a time and bring the wheel into lateral true. Simple for people with only one thumb per hand.
And here is the bad advice of the day post.
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And here is the bad advice of the day post.
OTOH, if the wheels are machine built then completely de-tensioning them and then re-tensioning them would probably result in a net gain.
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You could find out what spokes they are made for. Get these spokes in the proper lengths. Get a rim and a hub. And learn how to build wheels. That's a win~win as you get to use your red nipples, and you learn a valuable skill at your leisure.
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Nice idea Panth, got enough on my plate for the time being what with buying/building the rest of the bike! Perhaps when I'm done, and I'm hooked on bike mechanics, I will give it a go!!
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I'd just string them on a piece of shift cable and make a bracelet or 5 out of them. Then sell the bracelets to n00bs. That's the best use of alloy nipples.
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Originally Posted by Panthers007
You could find out what spokes they are made for. Get these spokes in the proper lengths. Get a rim and a hub. And learn how to build wheels. That's a win~win as you get to use your red nipples, and you learn a valuable skill at your leisure.
Win~Win~Win when he gets to rebuild the wheel again once the alloy nipples strip and fail.

Frankly, that does depend on how they are utilized, but unless you're going for record lows in wheel weight, damning reliability in the process...I'd avoid alloy nipples. Too susceptible to corrosion and fatigue.
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Originally Posted by operator
And here is the bad advice of the day post.
Okay, I give up. Why is replacing one spoke nipple at a time bad?
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Originally Posted by Nessism
Okay, I give up. Why is replacing one spoke nipple at a time bad?
For someone who has at least some experience with wheel building or truing, it's not bad advice. For somone who has no knowledge, experience or the appropriate tools, it's likely to lead to more problems.
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If they don't split apart and cause the wheel to go out on the OP, they'll at least turn pink from the sunlight bleaching the red dye or whatever.
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