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Old 05-29-09, 01:18 PM   #1
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Which (if either) of these Craigslist frames should I buy?

I currently have a conundrum: At 5'11", I'm too tall for my 55cm Marin Argenta road bike. I'd like to move the components to something a little bigger for pedaling around town.

Simultaneously, I'm hoping to build a winter-proof IGH touring bike on a minimal budget. I need 135mm of hub clearance in the rear with space for 700c wheels with great big tires without a mountain bike geometry.

There's a fellow on Craigslist selling two bike frames that might fit the bill:

http://madison.craigslist.org/bik/1181217352.html

For the IGH bike and

http://madison.craigslist.org/bik/1181215179.html

For pedaling around town.

The touring frame seems perfect for my needs - right spacing, right size, and it's made of gloriously rust-proof aluminum. (We do the salt thing pretty heavily here.)

The other frame I'm not so sure about - the sloping top-tube makes for some confusing frame geometry. Would this be appropriate for a road bike, or should I just get used to my knees hitting my elbows until I can finish the other bike?
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Old 05-29-09, 01:49 PM   #2
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Wow, those both look decent at a great price.

A sloping top tube frame rides and handles the same as any other road frame. The key dimension is something called "effective top tube" -- which gives you the same measurement as on a traditionally styled frame. I'll bet the Schwinn would build into a nice bike. Look on the company's website for the full frame geometry specs and decide from that...
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Old 05-29-09, 06:44 PM   #3
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The Schwinn has never been ridden therefore that frame has never been in an accident. The other frame is used and you can't be sure of it's condition until close inspection.

They both appear to be racing frames, not touring frames that you said you wanted. Did you note there are no bosses on the rear dropouts to support panniers on either frame? The Specialize would be extremily uncomfortable to tour on due to it's very high seat angle to the handlebars; the Schwinn would at least be able to put your rear and hands close to the same plane.
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The specialized is not a 58cm. It's way too small for you.
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The specialized is not a 58cm. It's way too small for you.
right, headtube looks to be too short.
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Those are not racing frames - both have cantilever bosses, and the Schwinn looks like it has rack bosses. The Schwinn definitely looks to be the better fit, but a 59cm top tube might be a bit much for someone 5'11". I'm 5'10" and like a 56-57cm top tube. You can make it work though. Be careful with your stem length.
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I can't see any rack bosses on any of the bikes, but that may be my computer screen...yes is a high resolution LCD.

I've seen cantilever bosses on cross bikes, and I've seen cross bikes without the bosses. But looking at the seat angle to the handlebars on the Specialize is just to radical for a touring bike. Pics don't always do proper justice for stuff like this, but the Specialize looks way smaller then 59 rather more like a 51 or maybe a 53 which would make you all crunched up on the bike even with the tall seat post that's on it now, plus that extreme angle would become increasingly very uncomfortable as the miles pile up.

The Schwinn looks like a better fit for the touring set up if it has the bosses as Sunburst said. But also has Sunburst said, if your only 5'11" a 59 means that your inseam is too short to stradle the top tube properly, you need between 1/4th to 1/2 of an inch clearance between your crotch and the top tube, in this case your going be more then squishing your family jews, in fact you would screaming! A 55 to 56cm frame would be better suited for you...but that's just guessing since we don't know your inseam. Personally, I don't think these frames will work for you, but here's how you can find out to prove me wrong, go to an LBS and try sitting on a 59cm bike.

Edit; I noticed you said you have a 55 and it's too short for you? Your best fit is probably going to be a 56, a 57 would be to tall just as the 55 is too short, but either of those 3 you can ride, it's just a matter of comfort as you found out with the 55.

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I used to own a 60 - it was just a little bit too big. Standover height was no problem. (I briefly owned a 63. THAT was uncomfortable.)

The Specialized looks to have a very short top tube and appears to be set up for an upright riding position. I'd prefer to go for a more aerodynamic position, which I usually find to be more comfortable for high-speed riding.
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