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Old 06-04-09, 09:46 PM   #1
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Spoke replacement, stupid question

I searched and gave up so forgive me in advance please.

I got a free front wheel with 2 broken spokes. The first one was easy, went up from the inside of the hub, through the hole in the hub, make the turn, seat the end and down to the rim.

The other one is the opposite. It goes from the outside of the hub, through the hole and then..?
Do you just have to bend it to get in the right place?

I feel like I can't see the forest for the trees.

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Old 06-04-09, 09:53 PM   #2
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I don't know what the right way is but I do know that I have put several hundred miles on spokes replaced with a bit of bending.
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Old 06-04-09, 09:57 PM   #3
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I don't know what the right way is but I do know that I have put several hundred miles on spokes replaced with a bit of bending.
So you just bent them the amount needed and made them go in? I didn't get any oops spares. Maybe I should have.
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Look at the other spokes. See how many spokes it crosses before it reaches the rim from the hub? If it crosses 3 other spokes before it connects into the rim, that a Cross 3* wheel. If 2 spokes - Cross 2. Etc. Notice how the last spoke it crosses it goes UNDER? If yes - Good! That means it's laced. Now do this same thing with the new spoke.

* - we abbreviate this as X3
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Mission accomplished. I needed to hear the operative words..."laced" and like other firsts in my amateur bike mechanic endeavors, just walk away and come back later.
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The spoke you called easy should cross behind the last spoke (3rd crossing from the hub). Doesn't look right as it is...

Is it just me, or is the lacing looking wrong everywhere else??
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The spoke you called easy should cross behind the last spoke (3rd crossing from the hub). Doesn't look right as it is...

Is it just me, or is the lacing looking wrong everywhere else??
I don't see any problems elsewhere - it looks like a 4 cross lacing on a 36 hole hub. It's not a mirror image pattern though.

Both marked spokes should have been just as hard or easy. Heads-in spokes are easy. Heads-out spokes are harder to weave through on a built wheel - they need to be curved to clear the next to final crossing of the other side's spokes.
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I did make a mistake on marking the "easy" spoke. Easy for me was the one next to it with the head inside the hub.
I checked all the spokes and the lacing seems correct, IMHO. X3

I don't how tight to make the nipple but at least it has all the spokes now.
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I don't see any problems elsewhere - it looks like a 4 cross lacing on a 36 hole hub. It's not a mirror image pattern though.

Both marked spokes should have been just as hard or easy. Heads-in spokes are easy. Heads-out spokes are harder to weave through on a built wheel - they need to be curved to clear the next to final crossing of the other side's spokes.
I was guessing it was 3 cross. Now I see.
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For a basic tensioning, tighten the nipple until the spoke deflects the same amount as others around it. That said, you should probably pop the wheel in a truing stand to really get things right.
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Don't forget to tension it and do it again in the truing-stand.
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