curbside

This weekend I'm looking to strip a nice frame of what remains from a cheap spray-paint paint job to prepare it for a professional powder coating. But first, before I apply the paint stripper, I need to remove the cf seat post (which of course would not react well to paint stripper). I have a problem however. After getting the seat post the correct height, I epoxied a small ball bearing into the allen bolt that secures the seat post to prevent someone stealing my nice brooks saddle that was once attached to it. The bb/ball bearing was very close to the same size as the fitting for the allen wrench and the epoxy really sealed it in there good. So far I've tried acetone and paint thinner to dissolve the crazy glue/epoxy compound, but neither seemed to do the trick. Any suggestions?



thanks.

HeyitsDave

Dissolve epoxy? Hardly. My trusty air hammer with a chisel tip ftmfw. Good luck.

MrPhil

Drill that bolt out from the other side.

Plynthblox

Yes, you can dissolve most epoxies. Is it just your usual 5,10 or 30 minute epoxy? The problem you've got here is giving the dissolving agent enough time to really soften the epoxy before it evaporates. If it is a polyester resin I'd poke a couple holes in any visible surface of the material, thoroughly swab it down with some MEK (Methyl Ethyl Ketone: it's related to Acetone, but evaporates much more slowly), stick a piece of foil over it and let it sit for a minute.... then repeat. Soften it up a decent amount, and pry it out with a pin. IIRC, I've had luck with naptha as well.

Fidelista

Apply a soldering iron to the ball bearing until the epoxy softens and melts.

Nessism

Yup, heat is the answer. Heat gun or propane torch will work if the frame is steel.

curbside

Thank you everyone for offering such prompt and (hopefully) fruitful advise. I'm going to try some more acetone with tinfoil like Plynthbloxsuggested, followed by some heat treatments if needed. I'll report back (with news of success I hope.)

Mike Mills

Heat is the answer. Dissolving a thin epoxy film is ridiculous. It would take forever for the entire depth of the adhesive film to dissolve.

Plynthblox

If it were flat surfaces I'd agree that dissolving won't get him anywhere but I figured there may be enough openings for the solvent to fill in order to speed things up... dissolving isn't the goal though, just softening it enough to pry the bearing out with a tiny screwdriver or a stiff pin. Yeah, it might not work work though, it hasn't served him well thus far.

I don't think heat will get you too far unless you're using an open flame, the whole piece is a big heat sink (even with the epoxy somewhat isolating the bearing thermally) and a light duty soldering iron like most people have won't be up to the task at any rate. A pencil torch will do the job, don't keep it on there too long and remember it's going to reek like hell so keep it outside. If you do need to go this route, and you very well may, take a WET towel and wrap it around the seat tube to remove excess heat which may otherwise damage the stem; just to be safe.

I wouldn't use acetone either... it evaporates too quickly to really penetrate.

DMF 

Or use a fiercely-toothed pliers to turn the bolt loose. Then throw the gnawed bolt away and get a new one.

One problem with the heat treatment is that even if you get the BB out, you've still got a socket filled with epoxy, ready to glom onto the hex key.

CCrew

That's the ticket right there. Epoxy will dissolve with heat.

curbside

Success!


Thank you everyone. If ever we cross paths on the outside, drinks are on me.

Plynthblox

Excellent!!!

So, how about posting how you did it and any additional notes for anyone who has this problem in the future?

Also, what type of resin was it to begin with?

curbside

It was originally secured in place by an overgenerous application of super-glue. It was removed with a simple lighter held in place for several seconds, and then loosened and dislodged with an exacto-knife.


Once again guys, thanks for all your help. I had tried everything, black-powder explosive was going to be the next resort (at least, it was under consideration).

CCrew

As a FYI... SuperGlue is not epoxy. It's a cyano-acrylic bonding agent. Acetone dissolves it.

Wordbiker

Also, where do you live so we can take you up on those drinks?

Plynthblox

Indeed, a VERY different scenario than presented. Just tapping it straight on with a hammer a couple times would have probably done the trick; it's worked for me several times in the past in different circumstances.

curbside

Next time you're in New Hampshire or somewhere close by in the New England area, shoot me an email.


charlywilkins@gmail.com

curbside

Yeah, believe me, I tried that. A sharp leather piercing awl and a hammer = No dice.