Squealing BB7s
I run BB7 road discs on my commuter. When I switched to Shimano centerlock hubs with Shimano rotors (LX level...I forget the exact model number) the rear started screaming.
I've painstakingly set them up, and re-checked the setup. It's perfect. I've cleaned them. The front works great, and doesn't shriek. The rear is pretty consistent in it's protests. Do I need different pads? |
Shimano rotors tend to have narrower braking tracks than the pad of the BB7, you sure it's a good match in your case?
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Hadn't considered that as a potential source of squeal, so I didn't exactly break out the calipers to measure. I double checked that what both rotors claimed as 160mm was actually 160mm (it was a match) but other than that I just eyeballed it.
The scuffing from the pads looks well aligned, even if the Shimano rotor has a slightly narrower track. I really like the center lock mounting system. Unfortunately Avid doesn't make any of their own rotors center lock compatible. And the adapters are kind of kludgy. |
Originally Posted by Banzai
(Post 9120199)
Hadn't considered that as a potential source of squeal, so I didn't exactly break out the calipers to measure. I double checked that what both rotors claimed as 160mm was actually 160mm (it was a match) but other than that I just eyeballed it.
The scuffing from the pads looks well aligned, even if the Shimano rotor has a slightly narrower track. I really like the center lock mounting system. Unfortunately Avid doesn't make any of their own rotors center lock compatible. And the adapters are kind of kludgy. Braking track and diameter aren't the same thing...don't want overlap on your pads vs rotors...or vice versa |
If the front isn't squealing, it doesn't seem likely that you'd have an overlap issue in the rear. However, I know that when I've had a standard brake pad hanging a bit off the edge of the rim it squeals terribly so it's probably worth looking into. Pull the pads and if they are contacting the rotor completely.
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sounds like you need a new rear rotor set up
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Originally Posted by joejack951
(Post 9122313)
If the front isn't squealing, it doesn't seem likely that you'd have an overlap issue in the rear.
Banzai, how did you clean the rotors? That may be an issue too. Alcohol works best.. The rotors should say on them what pad material they're designed for. It's usually laser etched near the hub. |
After using the BB7's personally on two bikes: have the disc tabs faced.
Even though Avid has their domed washer adjustment to compensate for slight alignment issues, if the brake is squealing, something is resonating. Even a little paint can allow movement of the caliper. Having a solid mounting surface after facing took all the squeal out of my BB7's. |
Originally Posted by CCrew
(Post 9123210)
Possible, depending on the type of dropout in the rear. Placement of the caliper in relation to the rotor may be off.
In that case, Banzai, have you checked and double checked that your rear wheel is sitting in the dropouts correctly? |
Originally Posted by CCrew
(Post 9123210)
Possible, depending on the type of dropout in the rear. Placement of the caliper in relation to the rotor may be off. We're assuming it's not a horizontal dropout since most disc bikes aren't, but until the OP gives us more it's just an assumption.
Banzai, how did you clean the rotors? That may be an issue too. Alcohol works best.. The rotors should say on them what pad material they're designed for. It's usually laser etched near the hub. I'll try the alcohol, and I'll also search for that etching.
Originally Posted by Wordbiker
(Post 9123376)
After using the BB7's personally on two bikes: have the disc tabs faced.
Even though Avid has their domed washer adjustment to compensate for slight alignment issues, if the brake is squealing, something is resonating. Even a little paint can allow movement of the caliper. Having a solid mounting surface after facing took all the squeal out of my BB7's. It's curious to me that with Avid's roundagon rotors there would be no squeal though. I wonder if the much greater number of holes drilled in the Shimano rotors are causing this. |
Originally Posted by Banzai
(Post 9123813)
Vertical dropouts. Horizontal is just stupid with discs...
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Originally Posted by CCrew
(Post 9124003)
Oh yeah, but someone out there is doing it I'm sure :)
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Originally Posted by Banzai
(Post 9123813)
Vertical dropouts. Horizontal is just stupid with discs...
I'll try the alcohol, and I'll also search for that etching. Because of the domed washers you mention, I never considered this. Afterall, the tabs look right to me, and whatever error there may be was, in theory, taken care of by those washers. It's curious to me that with Avid's roundagon rotors there would be no squeal though. I wonder if the much greater number of holes drilled in the Shimano rotors are causing this. |
Originally Posted by Banzai
(Post 9123813)
Vertical dropouts. Horizontal is just stupid with discs...
http://www.surlybikes.com/1X1.html Had no issues with either one. |
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