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    New Chain - link number and other Qs?

    Hi everyone,

    I'm almost due for a new chain and cassette combo and this if my first time doing so. My bike is second hand and was a hodge podge of leftover parts and some of the bits are worn. As usual I'm debating whether to buy online or from LBS - I'd get the LBS to install them regardless of where they are sourced from. Online if of course cheaper, however for the chain I am after there seem to be a few different link sizes.

    My current drive chain is 9-speed ultegra 6500 running a Dura-Ace chain, with a 11-23 cassette. I'd like to replace the cassette to go up to 27 on the largest ring which I believe is the smallest gear I can get without having to change other bits and pieces around.

    Now a quick look at Dura-Ace 9 speed chains have a few on offer with different numbers of links. There is a 116 and 114 I can find. Will either do? As I understand it they normally remove links to get it to the correct length.

    Also, can anyone suggest what may be the best replacement for these parts while keeping everything compatible. I'm not really concerned about weight, but mostly durability while maintaining shifting performance, so I probably wouldn't go with the Dura-Ace chain.

    Would it be an idea to stick with Ultegra everything, or perhaps go down to 105 or even Tiagra? Would it make a difference?

    Later addition: I have just read through the thread 'Downgearing my road bike' and there is some good info there, especially since I as considering something similar. I would probably plan to replace my current standard double (which is a bit worn anyway) with either a compact double or a triple. The triple sounds good as I rarely use my high gears and it sounds like it's more suitable for a every situation bike while sacrificing weight (which I have already said I am not to concerned about). Now I am pretty sure the Ultegra 6500 shifters that I've currently got will take the triple or the compact. But the Dura-Ace FD I am fairly sure won' take the triple and maybe not the compact. So my questions are, what information do I need to know before I start researching more or picking out possible parts? FD attachment type, bottom bracket type etc?

    I am also presuming if I switch to a triple it will mean another new chain because it will have to be longer due to the fact that you can't add links only break them off. Will I have the same issue with going to a compact double?

    I realize there are a lot of questions here, so manythanks for any help.
    Last edited by damnable; 07-22-09 at 04:40 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by damnable View Post
    Hi everyone,

    Now a quick look at Dura-Ace 9 speed chains have a few on offer with different numbers of links. There is a 116 and 114 I can find. Will either do? As I understand it they normally remove links to get it to the correct length.

    Also, can anyone suggest what may be the best replacement for these parts while keeping everything compatible. I'm not really concerned about weight, but mostly durability while maintaining shifting performance, so I probably wouldn't go with the Dura-Ace chain.

    Would it be an idea to stick with Ultegra everything, or perhaps go down to 105 or even Tiagra? Would it make a difference?.

    1. You can count the number of links on your existing chain to see how many you need. Quite frankly, I never paid attention to the number of links on a new chain (114 v 116), but I've always had to remove links.

    2, I am partial to SRAM cassettes and chains. Their 9 spd and below chains have the cool Powerlink, which allows you to bread and connect a chain in a few seconds using only your thumb and forefinger. Makes maintenance a snap.

    3. No need to stick with Ultegra everything. My road bike came with Ultegra everthing except for cassette (105) and chain. I recently replaced the casette and chain with SRAM. My mountain bike has Bontrager cranks, Shimano LX front der, Shimano XT rear der, SRAM cassette and SRAM chain. All components play well together.

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    Counting the links on the original chain suppooses that it was original cut to the correct length to begin with. Not a good assumption to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by damnable View Post
    buy online [...] I'd get the LBS to install them
    Not cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laura* View Post
    Not cool.
    This is one of the parts where it is a business. They have straight out told me that they would not reduce labour costs or any part if I were to buy the parts from them.

    Although I may go and ask them for prices in the next few days and if they help me significantly with choosing parts then I will order from them.
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