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Old 07-15-04, 11:10 PM   #1
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Cane Creek 200TT brake lever?

ok, today i got my set of cane creek 200tt brake lever. i've checked it with my current setup on my sirrus. it looks as though the brake cables will fit just fine. however, here is my question.

i've noticed that on my current brake setup, there is this adjusting barrel on the current brake lever. but on the TT brake lever, there isn't any place to put the adjusting barrel. so i was wondering if i should put the brake cable on there, i wonder what if i squeeze too hard, won't the brake lever get stuck? cuz it looks like the only way i can make the cable really tight is by pulling on it hard and then screw tighten it on the brakes. is there something i'm missing here?

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Can't see any reason why the lever would get stuck. Basically you'll just have to be very accurate with your cable pinch bolts, or buy a caliper with an adjuster barrel, or better yet get one of those in-line adjusters.
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Can't see any reason why the lever would get stuck. Basically you'll just have to be very accurate with your cable pinch bolts, or buy a caliper with an adjuster barrel, or better yet get one of those in-line adjusters.
jonny... can u post a pic of those inline adjuster?
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Road brake levers don't have adjusting barrels. The barrel is on the caliper. This is the other problem with using linear pull brakes with road levers. Have you thought about leaving the straight bar on the bike and attaching the Syntace bar to it?
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Road brake levers don't have adjusting barrels. The barrel is on the caliper. This is the other problem with using linear pull brakes with road levers. Have you thought about leaving the straight bar on the bike and attaching the Syntace bar to it?
demon, actually that's what i was doing before until i felt it was uncomfortable when i was climbing. looks like i might have to replace the brakes as well... i checked with the lbs near my house and they are going to charge me $80 for a pair of shimano 105. is that about right?
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you can get ultegra for 80
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oh yeah? where.. can u tell me? i kinda figured he could have been quoting me at a higher price. the minute i mentioned i have a sirrus, he was like.. "hum, ok." and when i told him i am going to change the handle bar to a TT handle bar setup.. he's like... "humm hum... well, we can install it for u, but u will have to bring us ur bike for us to give you a quote first." then after he said that.. he started quoting me.. i was like.. i thought u need to see my bike first? the numbers he gave me are kinda high.. perhaps to scare me away from modding what most people think is a useless road bike???
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Do you even have the hole to mount standard calipers?
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Do you even have the hole to mount standard calipers?
yup i think so. there is 1 hole in the center of the fork and then there is another hole on the rear triangle.
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ok, today i got my set of cane creek 200tt brake lever. i've checked it with my current setup on my sirrus. it looks as though the brake cables will fit just fine. however, here is my question.

i've noticed that on my current brake setup, there is this adjusting barrel on the current brake lever. but on the TT brake lever, there isn't any place to put the adjusting barrel. so i was wondering if i should put the brake cable on there, i wonder what if i squeeze too hard, won't the brake lever get stuck? cuz it looks like the only way i can make the cable really tight is by pulling on it hard and then screw tighten it on the brakes. is there something i'm missing here?

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I've been waiting for this question from you for about a week.

Your brake lever won't pull enough cable to make your linear pull brakes work. If you adjust your brake pads close enough to the rim for the brake levers to work, you'll have to disconnect the brake cable every time that you remove your wheel. You won't have any brake modulation either so your brake will always feel like it's either off or locking up the wheel.

One possibility is to replace the brake calipers with some kind of road calipers. I absolutely agree with your LBS that I'd want to see your whole bike before I committed myself to a quote for doing that. Potential issues are brake reach and the possibility that a hole intended for a reflector bracket might not be suitable to support brakeing forces. One thing you'll find out about bike stuff is that often, the more confident someone is about the mechanical advice they give, the lower the likelyhood that they actually know what they are talking about.

A way out is to buy a pair of "Travel Agents." That's a gizmo that mounts on your linear pull brake calipers and doubles the cable pull from your brake lever. Pay the extra money to get the kind that come with the barrel adjuster. Setting up Travel Agents for the first time is kind of a trip so, if you aren't absolutely confident in your ability to adjust your brakes otherwise, I'd be for having them professionally done.
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I've been waiting for this question from you for about a week.

Your brake lever won't pull enough cable to make your linear pull brakes work. If you adjust your brake pads close enough to the rim for the brake levers to work, you'll have to disconnect the brake cable every time that you remove your wheel. You won't have any brake modulation either so your brake will always feel like it's either off or locking up the wheel.

One possibility is to replace the brake calipers with some kind of road calipers. I absolutely agree with your LBS that I'd want to see your whole bike before I committed myself to a quote for doing that. Potential issues are brake reach and the possibility that a hole intended for a reflector bracket might not be suitable to support brakeing forces. One thing you'll find out about bike stuff is that often, the more confident someone is about the mechanical advice they give, the lower the likelyhood that they actually know what they are talking about.

A way out is to buy a pair of "Travel Agents." That's a gizmo that mounts on your linear pull brake calipers and doubles the cable pull from your brake lever. Pay the extra money to get the kind that come with the barrel adjuster. Setting up Travel Agents for the first time is kind of a trip so, if you aren't absolutely confident in your ability to adjust your brakes otherwise, I'd be for having them professionally done.
my lbs will call me on monday to let me know if there is anything else they may need to install. i'll also ask them to see if i will need a travel agent. thanks for the tip.
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Retro... ur right... i do need the travel agents. as it turns out.. they said the brakes are mushy and it does stop. so i need two travel agents... they charged me $16.95 each. perhaps when i go in there today.. i'll talk to the boss and see if i can get a discount on them.. hehe.. perhaps pick up the phat bar system too.. hehe
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