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Originally Posted by Metaluna
Have you heard anything about 11 speed chain life? Do compatible quick links exist yet, or do you have the special tool you need to peen the chain pin? Just curious.
I just picked up some NOS Record 10 shifters but I'm wondering if it might not be better to sell them now while they're still worth something and then plan on moving to 11 speed in a couple of years.
The Forster superlink will soon be available in an 11 speed version. I've already used a KMC missing link, made to fit the Campy 10 UN chain and others have used the SRAM 10 powerloc. I've also used a wipperman 10S1 connex link, but these are no longer made. Wipperman has never made master links intended to fit other brands and I would not expect them to do so in the future. KMC has an 11 speed chain that is supposed to be out soon, but it's more expensive than Campy, so I won't be buying one. I'll try the master link if it becomes available.
I bought the Campy 11 chain tool for about $140. It's not cheap, but it work perfectly. Park tool now sells a dedicated tool that only flares the right end of the 11 speed pin. Most 10 speed tools can be used to break the chain and press the joining pin in place, but can't perform the flaring operation.
I've been monitoring chain wear and so far the chain life looks to be less that you would get from a 10 speed Campy chain, but what people consider acceptable chain life varies tremendously. I expect 5,000 miles from a 10 speed Campy chain and use my chains in a 3-chain rotation with a new cassette to ensure that I get 15,000 from the cassette with no skipping. With 11 speed, I expect no more than 4,000 miles and I'm rotating the new chains every 1500, so the cassette has under 5,000 on it when the third new chain goes on. You have to get some use on all 3 chains before enough cog wear occurs to cause the last new chain to skip. The cogs are the same thickness as Shimano/SRAM 10 (1.6mm) so cog life should be similar. Expect Ti cogs to last half as long as steel. That means Chorus cassettes for maximum life and lowest cost.
Some people think that 2,000 miles on a 10 speed chain is a lot because they don't measure the wear properly and they use Shimano, SRAM or KMC chains that elongate much faster. Even 3,000 miles from an 11 speed chain would be considered to be good, in comparison and should be easy to get.