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    What am I doing wrong?

    I used the DT swiss calculator for spoke length, and did it mathematically, and got the same. On the DT site I just picked my hub and rim since I am using their hubs and rims.

    Anyway, some spokes are in all the way and some of the nipples come out where the tire will be. I don't get it.

    What's happening

    Different flange sizes. 262 and 265 spokes.
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    Are they talking about spectators feeding the cyclists? You know, like don't feed the bears?

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    Also, I notice it's all the ones I laced originally on both sides, not the cross spokes.
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    Did you bother to read the guide to the forums? Specifically that part which advises that when asking for help - details please?

    Hub?
    Rim?
    Holes?
    Crossings?


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    I didn't think that was important. I looked at another wheel I own and I think it matters that I put the spokes through backwards on one side. I just took half the wheel apart after spending the last hour and a half doing it(First wheel build). Taking a break to eat now..

    Okay.

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    Your calcs seem okay...so maybe as you seem to be suggesting - spokes on wrong side or something.

    Enjoy dinner...will be checking back...

    =8-)

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    Well I just don't get it. My boss at the shop showed me today how to do it on another hub but I kind of forgot. I think the first side is correct. I'm giving up now. Too tired. Tommorow I'll go to another bike shop.. embarrassing.. but since mine is closed... and find out where the first spoke goes. Once I get that I can do it. /sigh
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    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html

    Scroll down to "Initial spoke adjustment".

    It may also help to squeeze parallel groups of spokes together until the hub rotationally centers itself in the rim and all the spoke nipples are even.

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    I actually decided to take it apart and redo the whole thing. Success! Not true, because I don't have a truing stand, but it's actually a wheel!

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    wheel building

    this happens when the spokes on one side of the hub are not relating properly to the spokes on the other. Its tough to see if you are new at this. you need to drop one spoke into the hub and look how that hole relates to a hole on the other side of the hub. these two holes and their spokes need to relate to where they connect to the wheel. if the first spoke is just slightly ahead of the spoke on the opposite side it will end up in a hole on the rim one spoke hole in front of it counter mate from the other side of the hub. you could still have problems but this is the most common oversite and the one that mostly caused your problem

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    I'd like to see a non blurry picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by efetch View Post
    this happens when the spokes on one side of the hub are not relating properly to the spokes on the other. Its tough to see if you are new at this. you need to drop one spoke into the hub and look how that hole relates to a hole on the other side of the hub. these two holes and their spokes need to relate to where they connect to the wheel. if the first spoke is just slightly ahead of the spoke on the opposite side it will end up in a hole on the rim one spoke hole in front of it counter mate from the other side of the hub. you could still have problems but this is the most common oversite and the one that mostly caused your problem
    That's what it was. I just started over and did sheldon's way. My boss said do all of one side first, but that didn't work.

    Oh, and, that's a cell phone pic. Of the completed (sans truing/dishing) wheel. It worked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzeffex View Post
    Anyway, some spokes are in all the way and some of the nipples come out where the tire will be. I don't get it.

    What's happening?
    Two long spokes followed by two short spokes - right? If that's the case you're laceing pattern is off by one spoke hole side-to side between the two hub flanges.

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