Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Specialized Specialized Stout Hub help, please?

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Specialized Specialized Stout Hub help, please?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-20-09, 06:40 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Specialized Specialized Stout Hub help, please?

I need directions on how to remove and reinstall the axle on a Specialized Stout Hub.

Thanks in advance,
Uni
Unicornz0 is offline  
Old 10-20-09, 06:43 PM
  #2  
Single-serving poster
 
electrik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 5,098
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Take the hub apart using cone wrenches like anyother?
electrik is offline  
Old 10-20-09, 07:00 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,660
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 582 Post(s)
Liked 171 Times in 138 Posts
Front or rear?
davidad is offline  
Old 10-20-09, 07:07 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,660
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 582 Post(s)
Liked 171 Times in 138 Posts
Don't know if this is related. https://www.specialized.com/ch/de/bc/...enuItemId=8855
davidad is offline  
Old 10-20-09, 07:28 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by electrik
Take the hub apart using cone wrenches like anyother?
There are no cones.

Here is a picture of a Specialized Stout axle, bearing, and skewer without the end caps. This skewer had to be sawed and the axle punched out since it was rusted to the cartridge bearing.
A new hub with axle and bearings installed is en route. I plan on removing the axle from the new hub and replacing the previpusly removed axle. It is probably a very simple matter, but since this axle is different from the standard cone/lock nut type, I decided to post to get needed directions.
Attached Images
Unicornz0 is offline  
Old 10-20-09, 07:29 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by davidad
No,that video does not apply.
BTW, it's the front axle.
Unicornz0 is offline  
Old 10-20-09, 07:39 PM
  #7  
Single-serving poster
 
electrik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 5,098
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Unicornz0
There are no cones.

Here is a picture of a Specialized Stout axle, bearing, and skewer without the end caps. This skewer had to be sawed and the axle punched out since it was rusted to the cartridge bearing.
A new hub with axle and bearings installed is en route. I plan on removing the axle from the new hub and replacing the previpusly removed axle. It is probably a very simple matter, but since this axle is different from the standard cone/lock nut type, I decided to post to get needed directions.
Awful. Well, seems to be straight forward.. i haven't worked on one yet but will have to in the near future.

Hopefully it's just a straightforward act of replacing the cartridge bearing, lubing the axle and sliding it in...

Let us know?
electrik is offline  
Old 10-20-09, 08:27 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by electrik
Awful. Well, seems to be straight forward.. i haven't worked on one yet but will have to in the near future.

Hopefully it's just a straightforward act of replacing the cartridge bearing, lubing the axle and sliding it in...

Let us know?
I hope it is that simple. Before I can resemble the parts, I've got to find out how to remove the end caps, bearings, and axle from the new hub. And I have to do this with regular tools. I don't have any exotic presses or pullers.
Hopefully someone with previous esperience or knowledge will post directions.
Unicornz0 is offline  
Old 10-20-09, 08:30 PM
  #9  
cab horn
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 28,353

Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 26 Times in 19 Posts
Originally Posted by Unicornz0
I hope it is that simple. Before I can resemble the parts, I've got to find out how to remove the end caps, bearings, and axle from the new hub. And I have to do this with regular tools. I don't have any exotic presses or pullers.
Hopefully someone with previous esperience or knowledge will post directions.
Judging by your previous posts your next attempt will be to make titanium out of bread.
operator is offline  
Old 10-20-09, 10:23 PM
  #10  
Single-serving poster
 
electrik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 5,098
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Unicornz0
I hope it is that simple. Before I can resemble the parts, I've got to find out how to remove the end caps, bearings, and axle from the new hub. And I have to do this with regular tools. I don't have any exotic presses or pullers.
Hopefully someone with previous esperience or knowledge will post directions.
Just be glad it's a front hub and not the rear.. after looking at dt swiss's instructions for servicing cartridge bearings in their 370 line of hubs(you must disassemble the free hub, which will require at least two specific tools, to get to the bearings) be glad you're not me! Probably just warranty it, bearings weren't pressed right from the factory.
electrik is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 06:43 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by electrik
Just be glad it's a front hub and not the rear.. after looking at dt swiss's instructions for servicing cartridge bearings in their 370 line of hubs(you must disassemble the free hub, which will require at least two specific tools, to get to the bearings) be glad you're not me! Probably just warranty it, bearings weren't pressed right from the factory.
Thanks for your post Electrik. I looked at the DT Swiss manual online & the 370 is remarkably similar to the Stout hub. The Stout hub can be disassembled without special tools so maybe the DTS 370 can be as well. My Stout hub does not have the dust cover that the DTS 370 has.
Here are some pictures.
1st) a Specialized Stout hub
2nd) a DTS 370
3rd) a DTS 370 expanded view
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
Specialized Skraxle.jpg (20.5 KB, 74 views)
File Type: jpg
DT Swiss 370.jpg (31.4 KB, 58 views)
File Type: jpg
Image00376.jpg (53.7 KB, 69 views)
Unicornz0 is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 07:03 AM
  #12  
A little North of Hell
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,892
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 71 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Skraxle

did not find much info on Specialized Skraxle hubs, mostly Ritchey model Skraxle hubs.

please grease/anti-seize the Skraxle(Skewer Axle)when you put it back together, so it won't seize up.
Soil_Sampler is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 07:21 AM
  #13  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
did not find much info on Specialized Skraxle hubs, mostly Ritchey model Skraxle hubs.

please grease/anti-seize the Skraxle(Skewer Axle)when you put it back together, so it won't seize up.
Thanks for the tip. Can you explain how to remove the end caps?
Thanks in advance,
UNI
Unicornz0 is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 07:27 AM
  #14  
A little North of Hell
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,892
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 71 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
no.

little to no info on assembly/dis-assembly of these hubs.

I believe I remember reading that they(caps)were press fit.
Soil_Sampler is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 07:34 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
no.

little to no info on assembly/dis-assembly of these hubs.

I believe I remember reading that they(caps)were press fit.
Yes they are pressed on.
Unicornz0 is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 09:50 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,660
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 582 Post(s)
Liked 171 Times in 138 Posts
If they are like my American Classics they are pried off. I use a screwdriver.
davidad is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 10:03 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by davidad
If they are like my American Classics they are pried off. I use a screwdriver.
Thanks, I do remember them being pried off. What area off the hub do I use for leverage and how do I make sure not to damage the area that is used for leverage? How do I remove the bearings, then after everthing has been removed from the new hub, how do I reinstall the axle, bearings, and end cap in the old hub and wheel?
Unicornz0 is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 10:55 AM
  #18  
A little North of Hell
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,892
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 71 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
sounds to me like you should let a bike shop mechanic do this?
Soil_Sampler is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 04:59 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
sounds to me like you should let a bike shop mechanic do this?
Part of the entire biking experience is repairing my own bike. If I know how to fix it, I'll probably know how it works, and this will in turn enhance my biking experience. Moreover, I will know that the job has been done right, or at least adequately.
Unicornz0 is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 05:27 PM
  #20  
A little North of Hell
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,892
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 71 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
questions???

Originally Posted by Unicornz0
Thanks, I do remember them being pried off.
What area off the hub do I use for leverage and
how do I make sure not to damage the area that is used for leverage?
How do I remove the bearings,
then after everthing has been removed from the new hub,
how do I reinstall the axle, bearings, and end cap in the old hub and wheel?
Originally Posted by Unicornz0
If I know how to fix it
I ask that, because of the amount of questions you have about a front hub that you already have apart.
Soil_Sampler is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 05:53 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,660
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 582 Post(s)
Liked 171 Times in 138 Posts
I tried e-mailing specialized and they wouldn't help. They said take it to your dealer. At least at Trek you can get tech info without selling your soul.
davidad is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 05:58 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
I ask that, because of the amount of questions you have about a front hub that you already have apart.
There is nothing wrong with asking. The more that I have asked about this upcoming repair, the more that I've learned about it. Have you noticed the flow of information? I've learned quite a lot about this Skraxle from this page.
BTW, I did not take the hub apart, but I plan to learn how to put it together
Experience is a great teacher.
DIY Rocks!
Unicornz0 is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 07:06 PM
  #23  
A little North of Hell
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,892
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 71 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Unicornz0
BTW, I did not take the hub apart, but I plan to learn how to put it together
ok.
Soil_Sampler is offline  
Old 10-21-09, 09:47 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 281
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by Soil_Sampler
ok.
Ok Community this is starting to come together for me. But I still need help.
I really need help on steps 3 & 4, please explain how best to accomplish these steps.
1) I think I've found how to remove the end caps from the new hub, by prying them off with a screw driver.
2) Gently tap on the end of the new axle with a rubber mallet & that will remove the axle and one bearing.
3) Use a long nail to tap out the remaining bearing, with a large enough nail head to cover the inner race.
Or, would a socket/extension combination be better to press out the bearing by pressing as close to the outer race as possible?
4) Do I press both bearings into the hub and then tap the axle in? Seems like this might tap one bearing out. How do I install the axle?
5) Then tap the end caps on to the axle.

Thanks in advance,
Uni

Last edited by Unicornz0; 10-21-09 at 10:06 PM.
Unicornz0 is offline  
Old 10-22-09, 01:44 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,660
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 582 Post(s)
Liked 171 Times in 138 Posts
I got this from the horses mouth and it was like pulling teeth, horses teeth.


Here is a small step by step on how to work on your hub:
remove aluminum end caps
- gently tap one end of the aluminum axle forcing the bearing out of the opposite end of the hub
- reinsert the axle into the hub shell and remaining bearing
- gently tap out the second cartridge bearing
- service/replace the bearings/axle as necessary
- find a section of tubing which matches the OD(outer diameter) of the bearing
- gently tap the bearings back into the hub shell making sure that the piece of tubing does not contact the hub seal
- check the hub for axle play, or friction. loosen or tighten the bearings as required
- install the end caps
- ride

If you damage anything it will in no way be covered under warranty. I hope this helps.
davidad is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.